The Eagle

[VERITAS DE VOCE]

My head hurts. I'll holler at ya' after New Years and your hangover wears off. ;D

 

[LibertyNT]

God RT Just sop whining your starting to really tick me off.
You always find something to whine about in every forum.
I posted this before and ill post it again..
Have you ever actually taken the time to listen to these stations...
and How do you listen to them ALL? Its impossible so please do us a favor

SHUT IT!
Grr angry post

And Veritas Ill be there waiting for that
now it ends with a happy post

 

[RADIO TRUTH]

To quote a line from the movie "Thank God It's Friday"......Babakazoo is everywhere.

 

[LibertyNT]

Neh im Done Arguing...
Now lets get back on Topic...

Eagle's soundin pretty good.

 

[Neanderpaul]

Let's talk about adlibbing. If you are not reading something verbatim, you are adlibbing.

Nope. You're paraphrasing. Ad libbing is making it up as you go.

The 60s djs did much reading but, also got current information in various other ways. They did not rehearse or write it down. They kept it in their heads and used it as they needed it. This is adlibbing. Nothing was rehearsed.

Only if a new unique scenario is devised through the immediate processing of information. Anything stored, or saved for future use is just not an ad lib. Sorry. And your 60's DJs' and the so-called "stream of consciousness" jocks spent more time than you'll ever know pre-prepping their spontaneity. To proclaim that they did not is just opinion. Nothing I type to refute your claims will ever change your position. And that's fine. But to paint every jock from then, and now with the same broad stroke is simply poor tact. And, would cause some to question anything you present due to your repeated examples of closed-mindedness.

They tied what was going on in society to the music and commercials. It is a lost art. After three generations of liner card readers, djs today have no clue and no training how to do this kind of personality.

Patently false. And considerably bitter sounding. This is all your own discontent with what you perceive to be the way radio should be done. There are very talented people doing all that you claim doesn't exist, all over the dial, all over America. Every day.

Current young djs are even to young to have grown up listening to this kind of personality. When was the last time you heard a current dj say something funny about a song or a commercial?

Joking about commericals is not only lazy, but bad form. Advertisers don't want their stuff to be made fun of. It can cost your employer lots when they pull their order because some smart assed jock tried to make a joke. I personally cost my employer the Advanced Auto Parts account by calling the store I did a remote at, and told them that I heard in their jingle that "the devil's waiting there." A case of misheard lyrics, made into a joke, that the conservative Christian owners of AAP didn't find funny at all.

And most Program Directors also frown upon clowning the music. Because lazy talent have made it such a mistake that everyone gets their toy taken away.

The answer is never. The ability to play off of the music and commercials is totally extinct in today's radio. Getting today's djs to be able to do that would take a totally different mindset and total retraining. Today's djs don't think like that. When is the last time you heard a current dj have a conversation with dropins the way Rick Shaw had a running conversation with the Lone Ranger and Tonto on WQAM. This is a lost skill and a lost art and today's dj would be clueless even attempting to do it.

You're listening to the wrong personality then. Because it's happening right now. All over America.

Current morning drive radio is no better. I don't hear anything really funny with really great timing.....just a lead guy, a designated laugher chick and some other lackey babbling on. They are usually out of things to say after :15 seconds of the turning on the mic. The other 21 hours of the current broadcast day is liner cards, promos, going song to song with no talking, and definitely no humor. This is true for all current radio stations. Anyone in current radio, show me you can adlib, show me you can do off the cuff humor, show me you can have a running conversation with dropins and we will revisit this again.

The self-promoter wants me to list a bunch of radio station websites here. But, I don't want to run afoul of the Mods.

Feel free to open your mind, and do a little airchecking for about a week. Then, revisit the topic. I don't think you have the patience. You've got your mind made up. And that's fine. You have your opinion. You're entitled. But, when you walk into someone's world, and tell everyone how bad it is, you need to expect that the inhabitants will take up for their home.

Have a Safe, Healthy New Year!

 

[van hespen]

Let's talk about adlibbing. If you are not reading something verbatim, you are adlibbing. The 60s djs did much reading but, also got current information in various other ways. They did not rehearse or write it down. They kept it in their heads and used it as they needed it. This is adlibbing. Nothing was rehearsed. They tied what was going on in society to the music and commercials. It is a lost art. After three generations of liner card readers, djs today have no clue and no training how to do this kind of personality. Current young djs are even to young to have grown up listening to this kind of personality. When was the last time you heard a current dj say something funny about a song or a commercial? The answer is never. The ability to play off of the music and commercials is totally extinct in today's radio. Getting today's djs to be able to do that would take a totally different mindset and total retraining. Today's djs don't think like that. When is the last time you heard a current dj have a conversation with dropins the way Rick Shaw had a running conversation with the Lone Ranger and Tonto on WQAM. This is a lost skill and a lost art and today's dj would be clueless even attempting to do it. Current morning drive radio is no better. I don't hear anything really funny with really great timing.....just a lead guy, a designated laugher chick and some other lackey babbling on. They are usually out of things to say after :15 seconds of the turning on the mic. The other 21 hours of the current broadcast day is liner cards, promos, going song to song with no talking, and definitely no humor. This is true for all current radio stations. Anyone in current radio, show me you can adlib, show me you can do off the cuff humor, show me you can have a running conversation with dropins and we will revisit this again.

At this point RT, I don't care if you are 100% correct, 100% of the time. You have alienated your audience here by your tone and have lost any respect I could possibly give you (I know, you don't care.) I have read some of your other posts in other markets and you are consistent with your arrogance and insults. I really hope you can chill out, because you only hurt yourself by being this angry and bitter. Make the best of today...encourage someone, hug a tree, let someone into your lane of traffic, recognize that you need to soften your tone....and you might win some friends here or influence some programmers.

 

[RADIO TRUTH]

Anything that is in your head, that it not written down, if you say it, you are adlibbing. I'm not talking about paraphrasing. These 60s personality jocks did make it up as they went. I watched some of them do it. I do not hear any djs today doing anything close to this. There is nothing wrong with making jokes about commercials if you know what you are doing and are good at it and know where to draw the line. Dan Ingram on WABC was better at this than anyone ever and advertisers were willing to pay extra above the rate card to be on his show so he could have fun with the spots. Today's djs, who have no clue about humor or where to draw the line, there is no doubt that it is a lost art. As far as djs having fun and making fun of the music, they don't have the ability to do it because they have no concept of what personality radio is all about. If there was a talented personality who was that brilliant, a program director would be a fool to restrain him from performing, especially with a dearth of radio talent today. I have listened to many current radio stations in many markets across the USA and from what I hear, the picture isn't pretty. Every day it sounds cheaper, more automated, less personality, more sterile. The broadcasting companies are looking to spend as little money as possible and it shows in the on the air product. From every point, this is the worst era in the history of radio and will only get worse when internet radio is available in cars and local stations are fragmented to death.

 

[Robert Bass]

Hug a tree.... I like that!

And judging by what RT writes, I doubt he actually LISTENS to DFW radio at all. Otherwise he'd know about my Babe With Styx mistake, and how I played off of it about a month later. I've heard plenty of other funny stuff on my community leader, which is very unplanned. For one thing, the sports guys are good at it when they have time to kill. Then there's all the funny mistakes the kiddos make as they learn. "Gladys Knight & The Pimps", indeed!

R

 

[RADIO TRUTH]

In response to Van Hespen who said, At this point RT, I don't care if you are 100% correct, 100% of the time. You have alienated your audience here by your tone and have lost any respect I could possibly give you (I know, you don't care.) I have read some of your other posts in other markets and you are consistent with your arrogance and insults. I really hope you can chill out, because you only hurt yourself by being this angry and bitter. Make the best of today...encourage someone, hug a tree, let someone into your lane of traffic, recognize that you need to soften your tone....and you might win some friends here or influence some programmers.

Here is my answer.....

If the general radio listening public frequented this site, I might approach what I said in a more politically correct way but, this site is inhabited by a few broadcasters and 99% groupies so does it really matter if I irritate a few people? I am not angry or bitter about anything said on this site. In the overall scheme of things in the history of radio, nothing said on this site is going to make any difference to anyone. I take nothing on this site seriously. Knowing that this site is basically meaningless, I write what I want. It doesn't matter to me whether you agree, disagree, love me or hate me. I just don't care. If it was the general public, it would be a much different story. This site is purely for entertainment purposes and has no redeeming social value, just like porn. Maybe I just like irritating radio groupies. If you want to email me and insult me or say anything else, here is my email address [email protected]

 

[theshadow]

My head hurts.

Mine too. Good Lord!

You folks can close down the bar. I'm going home
with the lady.....

 

[Robert Bass]

If the general radio listening public frequented this site,

WOAH!!!!! STOP RIGHT THERE!!!!!

You don't KNOW for a fact who all visits this forum!!!!!!!

Also, I resent all your remarks claiming I have no talent, calling me a groupie, etc etc etc....

Sir,

There is a term called Public Relations, and so far all you've brought to the table is negative PR. To say this site is for entertainment purposes only is the most moronic thing I have heard from you yet! Like porn? Like porn, my ass. This is a place where people can communicate with each other. If you don't watch out, you'll piss off the wrong person, and that will come back to haunt you.

[EDIT-inflammatory content]

R

 

[radi0chik]

So I was just listening to The Eagle and Green Day's "Brain Stew" came on. They played the original version with the f-bombs and everything. Does anyone know about this? Is the Eagle uncensored now or what?

Apparently the wrong version of the song somehow got in the list to be played. It's now been removed and you should hear the edited version next time it comes around. Thanks for pointing it out.

 

[theshadow]

If the general radio listening public frequented this site, I might approach what I said in a more politically correct way but, this site is inhabited by a few broadcasters and 99% groupies so does it really matter if I irritate a few people?

I agree with Mr. Bass's comments...

You really don't know who we all are. We might
actually surprise you with your assumptions. Never
assume anything.....That's a talent learned with time,
since you revel in criticizing talent....

Oh, and please...just go shoot yourself....

 

[RADIO TRUTH]

In response to Robert Bass.....

The general public doesn't care or know enough to have any interest in any radio chat sites. For most people, radio means turning it on, listening to what they want and turning it off. The general public does not care about any of the issues on this, or any, radio chat sites. This site is radio groupies talking to radio groupies, nothing more, nothing less. Radio groupies need a place to communicate with each other so this site does serve a purpose but, other than that, is for entertainment purposes only and has no redeeming social value what-so-ever.

 

[van hespen]

Maybe I just like irritating radio groupies.

Yes, it is clear you are here to irritate. Seems like a pretty lonely way of interacting to me.

I'm out, too. C'ya RT, and good luck with your big, "take it to the next level" project.

 

[RADIO TRUTH]

Not only all groupies but, groupies defensive about being groupies.

 

[little1]

. When is the last time you heard a current dj have a conversation with dropins the way Rick Shaw had a running conversation with the Lone Ranger and Tonto on WQAM. This is a lost skill and a lost art and today's dj would be clueless even attempting to do it.

Yeah, well I bet churning butter by hand or starting a buffalo stampede are also lost skills, but I'd rather see either of those than hear the tired schtick that is a jock 'talking' to prerecorded audio, song clips, what have you.

That may be the whole problem in a nutshell. You think that's the height of creativity. I think it's the depth of banality.

 

[RADIO TRUTH]

I have a groupie question.....When making reference to a large number of groupies.....is it a gaggle of groupies, a herd of groupies, a pride of groupies or a school of groupies?

 

[RADIO TRUTH]

In response to Little1.....

Having a running conversation with any prerecorded voices is a lost art that requires a lot of skill. It could be done with current audio such as lines from Bart Simpson. Also, if done right, the comedy timing is better than working with a live designated laugher chick in morning drive. At least responding to pretaped voices, if you run the board right, the comedy timing will be slick. With a live person, it can never be that slick.

 

[little1]

It's not 'art'. It's stupid tired schtick that my Grandpa finds funny.

And it's not a lost art. I know of at least one station here in Dallas where the jocks regularly have 'conversations' with drops and soundbites.

It's just not that funny.

Sure it might be funnier that bad jokes and hearing the 'designated laugher chick' giggle, but it's not an either-or proposition.

And if it is, if my choices are AM shows with designated laugher chicks, or jocks talking to prerecorded audio, then I have 2 choices.

Choice A : Tapes/CDS/Ipod/XM/Sirius
Choice B: Blow my freaking head off.

And If A weren't available, I'd probably take "B" over hearing some jock joke with prerecorded audio...because it's just that bad. I've listened to a lot of tapes of old jocks, I've NEVER heard that bit done well. It's just NOT funny.