The Hit Parade Era - Fantasy Programming

[TheFonz]

I posted what should be self evident – major pop singers in the mid to late 50s gave up trying to copy the recently established rock ‘n’ roll sound, and went back to their pop ballad roots.

Lavern Baker recorded “Tweedle Dee” as an R&B novelty tune, it charted on R&B and Pop charts. The white cover version by Georgia Gibbs ranked as a pop tune.

“Four Walls” by Jim Reeves was a country ballad which also crossed over into the pop market.

The remainder of the tunes listed are pop ballads, not rock ‘n’ roll, even though a few of the artists mentioned, such as Brook Benton, later had recordings classified in the R&R genre. At best, tunes by Mathis and Boone would be pop oriented crossover soft rock.

To answer your question, no, I do not consider any of the above tunes to be rock 'n' roll. If you do, please note which ones and explain your reasoning. I'm easy.

You've explained your idea of the difference between pop and r&b. But you haven't given us your explaination of the difference between pop and rock & roll.

 

[GridLeakBias]

Speaking of cover versions, I'm probably gonna get blasted for this, but I think Dion's version of "Ruby Baby"
is better than the Drifters. I like the Drifters version, but Dion added a very jazzy singing style which I really liked.

You have my vote, I agree completely.

 

[GridLeakBias]

Speaking of cover versions, I'm probably gonna get blasted for this, but I think Dion's version of "Ruby Baby"
is better than the Drifters. I like the Drifters version, but Dion added a very jazzy singing style which I really liked.

I have to agree with you on that one.

Also, I posted this under stiffs, but this woman is really anything but a stiff. Seems her fantasy has come true at last, after so long, and it all started anew for her this past weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-KiGva9dV4

Thank you for the link Silkie.

This is truly a brilliant performance. How this lady with the powerful voice has achieved the dubious honor of not being recognized (before now) is a mystery. I hope she has a seasoned (and skilled) manager...

 

[Silkie]

This is truly a brilliant performance. How this lady with the powerful voice has achieved the dubious honor of not being recognized (before now) is a mystery. I hope she has a seasoned (and skilled) manager...

She showed 'em how it's done, that's for sure; and if you noticed, all the young people in the audience knew every note and cheered when she got it perfect. I wonder how many kids here would have that kind of culture today.

 

[GridLeakBias]

I wonder how many kids here would have that kind of culture today.

Silly question.

 

[TheFonz]

I posted what should be self evident – major pop singers in the mid to late 50s gave up trying to copy the recently established rock ‘n’ roll sound, and went back to their pop ballad roots.

Lavern Baker recorded “Tweedle Dee” as an R&B novelty tune, it charted on R&B and Pop charts. The white cover version by Georgia Gibbs ranked as a pop tune.

“Four Walls” by Jim Reeves was a country ballad which also crossed over into the pop market.

The remainder of the tunes listed are pop ballads, not rock ‘n’ roll, even though a few of the artists mentioned, such as Brook Benton, later had recordings classified in the R&R genre. At best, tunes by Mathis and Boone would be pop oriented crossover soft rock.

To answer your question, no, I do not consider any of the above tunes to be rock 'n' roll. If you do, please note which ones and explain your reasoning. I'm easy.

You've explained your idea of the difference between pop and r&b. But you haven't given us your explaination of the difference between pop and rock & roll.

Still waiting....................................

 

[landtuna]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXqgO63b59c

 

[Silkie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXqgO63b59c

I have seen that entire infomercial before. You could almost use it when you have a few people over for cards or something.

 

[Tom Wells]

How could I forget "Get A Job" by the Silhouttes

I added that to my AM 1620 playlist last week as "good luck charm".

This morning I got an e-mail that I am under consideration for a position at the Chicago Tribune in the production department.
I should have added it on January 23rd!

Send all thoughts and wishes for my success with this, mentally, psychic-ly, toward Chicago.

Time to go scrape adhesive from a basement tile floor in preparation for the sale of my parents' house.

Got a call this morning from one of the customers I used to service, and was offered a job to start this coming Monday.
Not the Chicago Tribune, but a commercial printer in Wheeling Illinois. Midnights, but I'm not going to gripe.
When I interviewed with them back in march, I wore one of their company t-shirts under my dress shirt, figuring it couldn't hurt.
They gave me a few T-shirts back in 2003, when they were trying to get me on board.
Phew! As someone continuously employed since 1977, 3 months of no employment was starting to give me the willies.
It wouldn't have worried me in good times, but with the economy sucking air lately, I was getting pretty worried about the lack of viable jobs.
Many were available at half the wage I was earning, but with a home and family, that would still have been a crisis.
The best part for me is that it's a place I've already worked at many, many times on both their web presses and sheetfed presses, so I already
"know" their equipment, more or less. The best part for them is they are hiring someone who they already know has done good work for them.
Glad I made a follow-up call this last week.


To return to the topic, does anyone else remember the song "Jealousy" by Katerina Valente ?

And I don't think anyone has yet added Babalu by Desi Arnaz. I have a 78 copy signed-in-white ink by Desi. Must be worth something...
Yo betcha I play that one on my station.

 

[GridLeakBias]

Got a call this morning from one of the customers I used to service, and was offered a job to start this coming Monday.

Congratulations.

To return to the topic, does anyone else remember the song "Jealousy" by Katerina Valente ?

I remember her, but I'm not sure if the "Jealousy" in my memory was by her. The beginning of the verse I remember begins: "Jealousy, night and day you torture me..." Was that hers?

And I don't think anyone has yet added Babalu by Desi Arnaz. I have a 78 copy signed-in-white ink by Desi. Must be worth something...

Desi and his orchestra was quite popular in the 40s and early 50s, especially in movie productions. I'm sure most younger folk now know him from the "I Love Lucy" TV series and DesiLu Productions.

 

[Tom Wells]

I remember her, but I'm not sure if the "Jealousy" in my memory was by her. The beginning of the verse I remember begins: "Jealousy, night and day you torture me..." Was that hers?

Yep, that's the one. I never heard it on the radio, but discovered I had the record and really liked it.
I added it to my playlist immediately.
It's always fun to have unsorted, unheard records waiting to be rediscovered.
Just added some of the George Martin-produced orchestra versions of the songsfrom the movie "Hard Day's Night".

 

[Silkie]

All too often, when mention is made of the Hit Parade, one’s thoughts turn to rock n’ roll or rhythm/blues or doo-wop or the pop charts. How many times has a “oldies” tune popped into your mind, and it turned out to a country recording?

What we now know as Country music has undergone numerous namesakes, including “Hillbilly” (from the 30s/40s), “Western” (late 40s/50s), Country/Western (60s/70s), and just plain Country (80s and on).

Late night listening in the 50s and early 60s found many listening to the Louisiana Hayride on KWKH, Shreveport, or the Midwestern Hayride on WLW Cincinnati, or the Big D Jamboree on KRLD, Dallas.

I’m wondering how some of the great music recordings in the country music genre have been overlooked?

Many of these recordings should light that little light in your musical memory:

Let’s Think About Living – Bob Luman
Misery Loves Company – Porter Wagoner
I Don’t Hurt Anymore – Hank Snow
The End of the World – Skeeter Davis
Walk On By – Leroy Van Dyke
Dear John – Jean Shepard & Ferlin Husky
Goodnight Irene – Ernest Tubb & Red Foley
Making Believe – Kitty Wells
Girl On The Billboard – Del Reeves
Old Rivers – Walter Brennan
Lonesome 7-7203 – Hawkshaw Hawkins (died with Patsy Cline & Cowboy Copas, plane crash, 1963)
Slippin’ Around – Margaret Whiting & Jimmy Wakely
Kisses Sweeter Than Wine – Jimmie Rodgers
Four Walls – Jim Reeves
I Fall To Pieces – Patsy Cline
Young Love – Sonny James
Always Late (With Your Kisses) – Lefty Frizzell
Slow Poke – Pee Wee King
Gonna Find Me A Bluebird – Marvin Rainwater
Once A Day – Connie Smith
My Special Angel – Bobby Helms

Another one I thought of this morning: This Old House - Rosemary Clooney

 

[radioman148]

All too often, when mention is made of the Hit Parade, one’s thoughts turn to rock n’ roll or rhythm/blues or doo-wop or the pop charts. How many times has a “oldies” tune popped into your mind, and it turned out to a country recording?

What we now know as Country music has undergone numerous namesakes, including “Hillbilly” (from the 30s/40s), “Western” (late 40s/50s), Country/Western (60s/70s), and just plain Country (80s and on).

Late night listening in the 50s and early 60s found many listening to the Louisiana Hayride on KWKH, Shreveport, or the Midwestern Hayride on WLW Cincinnati, or the Big D Jamboree on KRLD, Dallas.

I’m wondering how some of the great music recordings in the country music genre have been overlooked?

Many of these recordings should light that little light in your musical memory:

Let’s Think About Living – Bob Luman
Misery Loves Company – Porter Wagoner
I Don’t Hurt Anymore – Hank Snow
The End of the World – Skeeter Davis
Walk On By – Leroy Van Dyke
Dear John – Jean Shepard & Ferlin Husky
Goodnight Irene – Ernest Tubb & Red Foley
Making Believe – Kitty Wells
Girl On The Billboard – Del Reeves
Old Rivers – Walter Brennan
Lonesome 7-7203 – Hawkshaw Hawkins (died with Patsy Cline & Cowboy Copas, plane crash, 1963)
Slippin’ Around – Margaret Whiting & Jimmy Wakely
Kisses Sweeter Than Wine – Jimmie Rodgers
Four Walls – Jim Reeves
I Fall To Pieces – Patsy Cline
Young Love – Sonny James
Always Late (With Your Kisses) – Lefty Frizzell
Slow Poke – Pee Wee King
Gonna Find Me A Bluebird – Marvin Rainwater
Once A Day – Connie Smith
My Special Angel – Bobby Helms

Another one I thought of this morning: This Old House - Rosemary Clooney

Speaking of Rosemary Clooney how about "Cmon To My House"

 

[TheFonz]

Speaking of Rosemary Clooney how about "Come On-A My House"

A great song. I consider it to be one of the first rock & roll songs. Listen to the pounding beat of that harpsichord.

 

[Silkie]

Speaking of Rosemary Clooney how about "Come On-A My House"

A great song. I consider it to be one of the first rock & roll songs. Listen to the pounding beat of that harpsichord.

Which brings to mind two more that are not country-western, but have a great come on over and a harpsichord keyboard sound.

"Come On Down To My Boat, Baby" - Ev'ry Mother's Son
"In My Life" - The Beatles

 

[radioman148]

Speaking of Rosemary Clooney how about "Come On-A My House"

A great song. I consider it to be one of the first rock & roll songs. Listen to the pounding beat of that harpsichord.

Which brings to mind two more that are not country-western, but have a great come on over and a harpsichord keyboard sound.

"Come On Down To My Boat, Baby" - Ev'ry Mother's Son
"In My Life" - The Beatles

Hmm, Never thought of "C'mon Down to My Boat" that way. Interesting.

 

[Silkie]

Speaking of Rosemary Clooney how about "Come On-A My House"

A great song. I consider it to be one of the first rock & roll songs. Listen to the pounding beat of that harpsichord.

Which brings to mind two more that are not country-western, but have a great come on over and a harpsichord keyboard sound.

"Come On Down To My Boat, Baby" - Ev'ry Mother's Son
"In My Life" - The Beatles

Hmm, Never thought of "C'mon Down to My Boat" that way. Interesting.

Ha ha ha - Guess you had to be there.

 

[GridLeakBias]

Speaking of Rosemary Clooney how about "Come On-A My House"

A great song. I consider it to be one of the first rock & roll songs. Listen to the pounding beat of that harpsichord.

If you’re serious, I have to disagree. This was and is a great tune, but it is a far cry from R&R. Rock & Roll is recognized by the heavy back-beat, i.e., accent on beats 2 and 4. (1-2-3-4)

“C’mon A My House” is a classic “swing” arrangement with a steady and even 1-2-3-4 bass line. An excellent comparison would be: Benny Goodman’s “Sing Sing Sing”, minus the extended drum solo, of course.

 

[Silkie]

Speaking of Rosemary Clooney how about "Come On-A My House"

A great song. I consider it to be one of the first rock & roll songs. Listen to the pounding beat of that harpsichord.

If you’re serious, I have to disagree. This was and is a great tune, but it is a far cry from R&R. Rock & Roll is recognized by the heavy back-beat, i.e., accent on beats 2 and 4. (1-2-3-4)

“C’mon A My House” is a classic “swing” arrangement with a steady and even 1-2-3-4 bass line. An excellent comparison would be: Benny Goodman’s “Sing Sing Sing”, minus the extended drum solo, of course.

But it does have that great keyboard intro, which reminds me of the middle of "Gimme Dat Ding", by The Pipkins

 

[GridLeakBias]

Speaking of Rosemary Clooney how about "Come On-A My House"

A great song. I consider it to be one of the first rock & roll songs. Listen to the pounding beat of that harpsichord.

If you’re serious, I have to disagree. This was and is a great tune, but it is a far cry from R&R. Rock & Roll is recognized by the heavy back-beat, i.e., accent on beats 2 and 4. (1-2-3-4)

“C’mon A My House” is a classic “swing” arrangement with a steady and even 1-2-3-4 bass line. An excellent comparison would be: Benny Goodman’s “Sing Sing Sing”, minus the extended drum solo, of course.

But it does have that great keyboard intro, which reminds me of the middle of "Gimme Dat Ding", by The Pipkins

True. We agree on that.