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The Illusive Obvious!

I cannot believe how NOBODY in Phoenix has noticed or mentioned it yet! Something rather provocative is happening RIGHT NOW on the FM dial and nobody is even discussing it.

Should I even bother to mention it? Do I want to be the one to "spill the beans" and bring it to everyone's attention and get people talking, or is it better that I just shut up and let that station do what they're doing stealthily, in peace?

At least I was kind enough to let you all know something is up....

I'll wait just a little bit longer and let you all scan the dial a bit and see if you can catch what's happening before I open my big mouth. It's not like their competition isn't already aware of it, but I'm surprised that NO ONE has posted about it here yet (and there must be a reason)! I guess I no longer have to keep suggesting a certain type of urban format in Phoenix anymore.

That Sh%t Cray!
 
Well, we're in Buckeye and all we've noticed is it's raining where we are! So obviously, this change is too illusive for feeble fezed minds.
 
KDM 7000 said:
I cannot believe how NOBODY in Phoenix has noticed or mentioned it yet! Something rather provocative is happening RIGHT NOW on the FM dial and nobody is even discussing it.

Maybe nobody cares about "it"! ;D
 
asugeorge1 said:
KDM 7000 said:
I cannot believe how NOBODY in Phoenix has noticed or mentioned it yet! Something rather provocative is happening RIGHT NOW on the FM dial and nobody is even discussing it.

Maybe nobody cares about "it"! ;D

I actually considered that to a degree, but... there has been times when people (other than myself) have come to the Phoenix section suggesting this type of rather major format tweak that is apparently about to launch.
 
I'm just going to come out of the closet with it because it's happening on the air and it's really no secret. I'm not sure what Power 98.3 is going to do now, but 99.3 may make 98.3 seem Powerless.

REMEBER WHEN I SAID THIS?
KDM 7000 said:
-----> To sum it all up in a nutshell, since KKFR is going to continue with the hip hop (or rhythmic format with the hip hop lean), they should've kept, and would've sounded much better keeping their original long time Program Director from 1997 to about 2008 or so. We all have opinions, and that one is mine.

Well, to sum it all up,

THAT AIN'T HAPPENING. AT LEAST NOT ON 98.3!

Read more, here:
http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=202957.0


That link will tell you all that I know SO FAR. Everything else I believe may happen with the station are just theories at the moment, but I'm pretty sure we have a new current music based urban format on the rise for 2012, or at least an urban leaning rhythmic sound. Hip hop has a new home, and I believe "The Man" is about to make it happen again.....  ;)

Reppin' that Southwest & Puttin' Phoenix back on the map fo 2012, yo! Now we're even harder than LA!  ???

That Sh%t Cray!

_______________________________________________________________________________

Remember.....???
KDM 7000 said:
We don't have any hip hop station in Az. except for The Beat. We need a hip hop station so everyone can hear Wocka Flocka Flame, Stuey Rock, Roscoe Dash, and other dirty south flavours along with some Dr Dre ....

You know what I'm talkin' 'bout Shawty?

GO CHECK THE KNRJ EVENING PLAYLIST....
 
I knew KDM was "Mr Hip Hop" at heart. What you're excited about is equal to somebody requesting Frank Sinatra on Radio Disney. It's barely news, and hardly topical. 2 crappy ass frequencies fighting over a very SMALL piece of the pie is absurd. Look at the charts. Hip Hop is dead. For KNRJ to suddenly be on board with something they should have cashed in on 5 years ago just shows how out of touch they are. So what, they want a piece of Power's 2 share?!? Oh but wait, they only do that AFTER 7pm.....not exactly an important time of the day for ratings. By the way, you forgot to mention they killed ALL the weekend mixes in favor of sounding like MTVs "Sucka Free Countdown".....sounds quite disappointing to folks that actually liked the Classic Throwback stuff. But I digress, folks here just aren't interested in 2 silly stations that barely equal a 3 share combined!
 
So is this news about Power 98.3 or the Powerless (at least out here in the East Valley) 99.3? This thread is very confusing for people who don't speak DJ rap talk... ;)
 
Also, for my money, I think the illusive obvious would be the new start time for Radio Khushi on our beloved Lumberyard. As of last week, Radio Khushi now starts at the peculiar time of 3:45 P.M. on KAZG. :eek:

I don't think I could say it any better than this:

KDM 7000 said:
I cannot believe how NOBODY in Phoenix has noticed or mentioned it yet!

P.S. We love you KDM! Glad to have your energy back on the boards! :)
 
asugeorge1 said:
So is this news about Power 98.3 or the Powerless (at least out here in the East Valley) 99.3? This thread is very confusing for people who don't speak DJ rap talk... ;)

yeah i hardly understand it myself....it sure is fun to mock it though. Such an easy target.

Anyway, both frequencies are Powerless. Actually, I should say all 4 are: Static 98.3, and the threesome of "The Beat" (92.7, 99.3, 101.1). What KDM is intrigued by is the fact that "The Beat" is dayparting current songs at night as a way to grab the very few people that listen to KKFR 98.3. BTW, KNRJ's ratings on ALL 3 frequencies equals a .8 combined. Yes you read that correct, it is not a typo. And they are shifting their Old School format to lean current only after 7pm in hopes of enjoying some of KKFR's 2.3 share. Keep in mind, no matter what Static 98.3 tries, their ratings keep getting lower and lower if you look back at previous books. A CLEAR sign hip hop is not exactly Hip anymore
 
asugeorge1 said:
P.S. We love you KDM! Glad to have your energy back on the boards!  :)

Awww, thanks! This sort of puts me in an R. Dub kind of mood... And speaking of R. Dub, I have a feeling that he, or something similar, may be back on the station, even if it's only once a week. We do not have any type of urban or urban leaning rhythmic format station with a slow jams dedication show (and even TUCSON has one!).

URBAN FORMAT / HIP HOP STATION
I gotta feeling that KNRJ will eventually become completely modern hip hop (and possibly r&b) with some old school and recurrents thrown in and a whole new set of mixshows. Despite the fact that I heard a "dance is ok, but my true love is hip hop" drop liner on KNRJ, I believe that if they mix, they may have some uptempo hits since they do play the remix of "Day'N'Nite" in regular rotation. I don't think this station is going to go 100% urban or urban contemporary.

CURRENT HIP HOP HITS & RHYTHMIC CHARTS
I believe the reason for the failure of Power 98.3 is not so much the hip hop, but more about the current funny playlist formatting in addition to being up against other stations with a more solid playlist and signal. As of right now, Drake, Big Sean, J. Cole, and Jay-Z ft Kanye West are within the top 10 RHYTHMIC charts (and N***** in paradise (the 'That Sh%t Cray' song) by Jay-Z ft Kanye West is at a solid #1 on the charts with J. Cole's "work out" sitting at #2). B.O.B, Wale, Beyonce, Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj, and Wiz Khalifa are just outside the top 10 and rising. Keep in mind this is just the rhythmic charts. I haven't looked at the urban charts . I noticed Power 98.3 stayed reasonably ok in ratings up until the point something happened and the playlist was... well, messed up, for lack of better terms. Hip hop was fading out, but it seems like some rappers finally "woke up" and decided to quit messing around or sitting back helplessly and start bringing back creative & meaningful lyrics and more quality hip hop rather than just sitting there watching the new rappers destroy it and talk about how the music died.

I'm not sure that hip hop is doing well enough to be supported exclusively on a station, but with a mixture of contemporary R&B (and maybe even some urban pop), I believe it could pull through. They will have to add some new R&B (Beyonce's new one, Miguel's new one,...etc.) and stuff if they fully plan on filling the urban style void.


WHY DOES THIS EXCITE ME?
I guess the reason why this excites me is not only because I am liking some of the newer hip hop releases lately and because it's somewhat of an unique format for the southwest, but I still sort of have that old subconscious mindset from my high school years when whatever city you were from or lived at was judged and rated based on how "hard" that city was, or how gangsta/hip hop it was. I was not exactly the "coolest kid in class" representing PHOENIX, AZ. when I lived in the southeast.  I know all that is old and in the past now, but for some reason, I still carry that subconscious mindset that I have something to prove and some city to beat. I imagine the possibility of certain folks flying in to Phoenix, scanning the dial, and finally accepting Phoenix for "being hard". I don't know why this is still important to me, and I'm sure a city with 4 urbans on huge signals doesn't even care or think about Phoenix, yet... although times have changed, I still feel that it's a competition and something must eventually be proven.
 
This is a very good move! As mentioned earlier in this thread it is late however. 98.3 went electro/pop/hip-hop years ago. Better late than never though. On these three tiny Phoenix signals a niche needs to be served. None better than hip-hop; probably the perfect niche for these signals. Others may be True Alternative Rock, Dance Hits or other formats that have a passionate following who will deliberately seek out the inferior signal.

It would be very surprising if this dayparting continued into the new year. Like the OP, I would expect a full flip from Classic Hip Hop to Rhythmic CHR with an Urban lean or however this night format would be classified. There is way too much classic stuff in the night playlist so hopefully that would change if a full flip occurred. If this sound and dayparting continues into the new year, expect no major changes in the ratings or listenership as the format is sort of all over the map.

Wonder what would have happened had KNRJ remained "Energy." The dance sound took off like a rocket not long after they exited the format. One of the last singles at that station was Lady Gaga's first single, "Just Dance".
 
Now that 99.3 is (or if 99.3 is) going to become mainstream urban or rhythmic with an urban lean, they will become the perfect station to host a dancehall / reggae show, perhaps at least once a week during a select time slot. I'm sure they'll have old school hip hop mix show segments and things of that nature, but in my opinion, they should also have a time slot for dancehall / reggae at least once a week, late nights on a Sunday evening or something. Not sure how well urban gospel would work in Phoenix, though, so I don't think we'll ever have a full blown urban contemporary format with "all its typical qualities". Majik 107 is probably the closest we'll ever get to a full blown urban in Phoenix, and I believe they existed so long mostly due to the lack of direct competition towards that sound on the fm dial. However, Majik 107 was an urban catered to contemporary R&B/Soul music, not hip hop. I don't remember if they had gospel on Sunday mornings, but they did do a reggae show on Sunday evenings (just like 92.3 / 100.3 The Beat in Los Angeles did).

Most urban fanatics in the west are familiar with the Power 106 KPWR urban lean rhythmic style, but Power 106 is not your typical urban format sound. KMEL, WVEE, and things like that are.
 
Be careful what you study, because 'Dj Rap' is a well known House & Drum & Bass music mixer and producer. http://www.djrap.com/bio.php

I believe I first discovered her in the 90's when 101.5 The Zone had a Saturday evening electronic alternative show and they played her first biggest single, "good to be alive", which somewhat crossed over into the alternative/rock genre. Now she has impressively come much farther since then. She has an intense passion and knowledge for electronic music, which you can see during her live video streams.

But all this is besides the point for the overall theme of the thread.
 
It seems the 3 frequencies are confusing folks to speculate incorrectly. KNRJ is 101.1. The other 2 are repeaters. So therefore, 92.7 and 99.3 are unable to be independant. They will always be slaves to another frequency. Speaking of which, when 101.1 receives its upgrade, they will not need the other 2. Just like when Mega 104.3 had their upgrade, they phased out 99.3 and gave it to 101.1.

BTW KDM, you mentioned Phx does not have a slow jam show....incorrect. Eva 95.5 does, and so does Mega 104.3. Furthermore, if KNRJ knew how to own their format, they'd be much better off. Just like when they were Energy, they never REALLY owned the format. They were too busy trying to grab Kiss listeners with Pop junk, just like now they are looking to grab KKFR listeners with current Hip Hop. What is wrong with offering something totally unique and owning it? It would make more sense since Movin gave up on their Party format, and Mega is extremely more watered down now with No Mixes or anything cutting edge. KNRJ The Beat should focus on playing serious Old School Party Joints. 80's thru 2000, Rhythmic, Urban, Dance from back in the day. There are sooo many classic rap songs they never touched, yet instead played Will Smith or Puff Daddy every few hours. Listen to any satellite channel that plays Throwback, and they smoke both KNRJ and KAJM. And those are only jukeboxes. It seems like a no brainer.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't find this entertaining in the slightest?

(Sorry to burst anybody's bubble), but we're talking about a station that is trying to emulate another station that currently sucks. Furthermore, KKFR STILL wasn't at its best when it was a hip-hop station. It was at its best during the '95-'97 years. Why isn't there a station trying to emulate that?
 
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