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The Party's Over In New York

Wow... thats just RIDCULOUS! I don't live in NY but I would be pissed losing the station. It was actually a great sounding station IMO. So whats on the over-the-air signal now? Static? Music at a low volume? The Russian format?
 
musicman3355 said:
Wow... thats just RIDCULOUS! I don't live in NY but I would be pissed losing the station. It was actually a great sounding station IMO. So whats on the over-the-air signal now? Static? Music at a low volume? The Russian format?

Static. Dead Air
 
We've always known that JVC Media was never really interested in the New York City market, and this cowardly act on their part is PROOF POSITIVE of that fact! They programmed Party like a Long Island station, and despite some changes, seemed reluctant to ever adapt to the big city.

The whole FCC / "signal thing" is total BS. If Mega Media were still in business, would they have pulled the same lame stunt? I don't think so, and I think the real reason JVC pulled Party 105's simulcast was because they KNEW it was a failure and wanted to be spared the embarrassment in the upcoming PPMs!!

It totally sucks that Serg and Frankie Vasquez got caught up in that mess. I can now see why Glenn Friscia seemed to be "in the shadows" when it came to the Party lineup. With no more New York simulcast, what will become of the former Pulse DJs who "signed on the dotted line"? Will they stay or will they go? I guess Vic doesn't have to front anymore and make "uncomfortable trips" to NYC/NJ clubs. He can just keep his crap in the Hamptons where it belongs!

I'm not optimistic about NYC ever getting another dance station. I think that ship has finally sailed. The media conglomerates aren't interested in sinking money into the format, and because of that, the only way we can hear our music is through the Internet. The death of Party FM means that stations like Energy 98 and Electric FM (among others) have become the only game in town!

EVERYONE on Party 105 should be ashamed of themselves!!
 
It unfortunately just wasn't enough. I knew it would fail without broadcasting a dance format like Pulse 87. And now NYC has no place for dance at all, unless KTU or someone else steps up to the plate. That said, the 87.7 signal was a joke, I could never get a clear signal anywhere in Nassau County, whereas 101.5 came in much stronger. Even in the 5 boroughs I had trouble with the signal, especially AFTER Party took over the frequency. The sad truth is 87.7(5) is really a weak, LPTV audio channel, and was probably not worth the money for JVC to keep up. They were a Long Island station plain and simple. Oddly enough, the music mix is much better AFTER the 87.7 was dropped.
 
Derrix-Javidd said:
We've always known that JVC Media was never really interested in the New York City market, and this cowardly act on their part is PROOF POSITIVE of that fact! They programmed Party like a Long Island station, and despite some changes, seemed reluctant to ever adapt to the big city.

The whole FCC / "signal thing" is total BS. If Mega Media were still in business, would they have pulled the same lame stunt? I don't think so, and I think the real reason JVC pulled Party 105's simulcast was because they KNEW it was a failure and wanted to be spared the embarrassment in the upcoming PPMs!!

It totally sucks that Serg and Frankie Vasquez got caught up in that mess. I can now see why Glenn Friscia seemed to be "in the shadows" when it came to the Party lineup. With no more New York simulcast, what will become of the former Pulse DJs who "signed on the dotted line"? Will they stay or will they go? I guess Vic doesn't have to front anymore and make "uncomfortable trips" to NYC/NJ clubs. He can just keep his crap in the Hamptons where it belongs!

I'm not optimistic about NYC ever getting another dance station. I think that ship has finally sailed. The media conglomerates aren't interested in sinking money into the format, and because of that, the only way we can hear our music is through the Internet. The death of Party FM means that stations like Energy 98 and Electric FM (among others) have become the only game in town!

EVERYONE on Party 105 should be ashamed of themselves!!

Why not just simulcast Energy 98 on 87? Otherwise I agree with alot of what you've said. But I am not shocked at what happened, I knew it was coming.
 
islanddxer said:
It unfortunately just wasn't enough. I knew it would fail without broadcasting a dance format like Pulse 87. And now NYC has no place for dance at all, unless KTU or someone else steps up to the plate. That said, the 87.7 signal was a joke, I could never get a clear signal anywhere in Nassau County, whereas 101.5 came in much stronger. Even in the 5 boroughs I had trouble with the signal, especially AFTER Party took over the frequency. The sad truth is 87.7(5) is really a weak, LPTV audio channel, and was probably not worth the money for JVC to keep up. They were a Long Island station plain and simple. Oddly enough, the music mix is much better AFTER the 87.7 was dropped.

While it's true that money and signal issues are a part of the reason that 87.7 was dropped, I suspect there was more than that involved in this decision. They didn't like the fact that they were going away from their Long Island roots to appease New Yorkers, so this was an "easy way out" for them. Regardless of the rationale behind it, cutting and running without warning just leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.
 
87.7 was ALWAYS temporary, there was no way it would be permanent. Island broadcasting applied days after the switch to Party to re-locate their Digital transmission, and as soon as this happened, 87.7 would have been required to leave the air.

Why JVC chose to lease the signal in the first place is beyond me. The CP would require that the analog station be completely shut down within 5 years, and I'm sure Island thinks it can make more money with the digital signal (you have 5 channels you can lease out vs 1).

I feel for the loss you guys suffered in NY, but Party was never a "dance" station anyways. Sure, they were dance-friendly, but dance crowds haven't meshed well with hip hop crowds in this country for a while.
 
Derrix-Javidd said:
The whole FCC / "signal thing" is total BS.

Especially the BS part where the FCC actually said that is has made it known that a "sunset" time will happen for analog LPTV as well.
Which then any LPTV operating will have to be all digital or all off the air. While the firm date isn't set, it's looming on the horizon.
 
Derrix-Javidd said:
We've always known that JVC Media was never really interested in the New York City market, and this cowardly act on their part is PROOF POSITIVE of that fact! They programmed Party like a Long Island station, and despite some changes, seemed reluctant to ever adapt to the big city.

The whole FCC / "signal thing" is total BS. If Mega Media were still in business, would they have pulled the same lame stunt? I don't think so, and I think the real reason JVC pulled Party 105's simulcast was because they KNEW it was a failure and wanted to be spared the embarrassment in the upcoming PPMs!!

It totally sucks that Serg and Frankie Vasquez got caught up in that mess. I can now see why Glenn Friscia seemed to be "in the shadows" when it came to the Party lineup. With no more New York simulcast, what will become of the former Pulse DJs who "signed on the dotted line"? Will they stay or will they go? I guess Vic doesn't have to front anymore and make "uncomfortable trips" to NYC/NJ clubs. He can just keep his crap in the Hamptons where it belongs!

I'm not optimistic about NYC ever getting another dance station. I think that ship has finally sailed. The media conglomerates aren't interested in sinking money into the format, and because of that, the only way we can hear our music is through the Internet. The death of Party FM means that stations like Energy 98 and Electric FM (among others) have become the only game in town!

EVERYONE on Party 105 should be ashamed of themselves!!

Derrix...YOU DO NOT KNOW THE SITUATION! I'll leave it there because SO many people want to twist things and make something seem like it was one thing when it is something completely different.

To Brett Holcomb, I want to apologize right now!
 
Wow can't believe it? Is there any chance the'll rethink it and go back on air before they convert to the Christian format on Feb 1?
 
87.7 was ALWAYS temporary, there was no way it would be permanent. Island broadcasting applied days after the switch to Party to re-locate their Digital transmission, and as soon as this happened, 87.7 would have been required to leave the air.

Not neccesarily. When a low-power TV station begins to broadcast in digital, the station is not required to turn-in/shut-off their analog license (unless the digital channel number is the same as the analog channel number).

From a single original low-power analog TV license, two stations can be operated at the same time: one analog and one digital, and the programming does not have to match. An example of this is a low power TV station in Chicago: analog WWME-CA Channel 23 / digital WWME-LD Channel 39 (displays as 23-2). Both channels are the air at the same time with different programming.

Analog WNYZ-LP Channel 6 is currently on the air, and Island Broadcasting has applied for digital WNYZ-LD Channel 22. After Channel 22 signs-on, Channel 6 (87.7 FM) can still stay on the air, until the FCC decides when all low-power analog TV stations must stop nationwide.

Most low-power TV stations have, however shut down their analog signals after starting a digital signal.

Likely the reason for 'Party' going-away is the exorbitant cost to lease the station. If the amount is correct, $200,000 per month seems to be more than any small-broadcasting company could handle.
 
Not to sound mean but,
there is no country, no active rock station for NYC. I don;t know many people who even listen to FM radio anymore because they have lost faith. the biggest complaint about top 40, tired of hearing the same song every hour.Look at WCCC Fm in Hartford, Bumper stickers everywhere around hartford I have seen some even in greenwich! you may take my advice if you want or not thats up to you guys, I am a Dj who is trying to grab listeners from satellite, ipods and who works at a ski resort just struggling to keep the listeners on the Fm dial. What do I know I am just a college radio Dj :p

Oz (Fri 4-7)
wxci.org
 
pinewood1972 said:
Does anyone have a recording of their last few minutes on 87.7? Did they give a proper send off?

This came out of nowhere. Also add to the fact that they are still transmitting on 105.3 and now back on 101.5 that it really couldn't be a "goodbye" per se.
 
Well, just be glad the stream is still up. I won't need to drive to Eastern LI or wait for a tropo on the Jersey Shore just to hear them ;D
 
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