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Von Haessler/Baron podcast

It is forced conversation with an attempt at being entertaining. It is hard to listen to. I assume it will be used as an audition tape. Throw it out and try again. If you are going to podcast at least put some good stuff out there.
 
Gave it a listen and it definitely needs a bit of work. That said, considering they've never worked together before and this was their very first go at it, I do think it shows decent potential, especially with the very funny Andrews. If I remember correctly, the first episodes of The Simpsons and Seinfeld were also pretty flat until they found their groove.
 
wooder said:
Gave it a listen and it definitely needs a bit of work. That said, considering they've never worked together before and this was their very first go at it, I do think it shows decent potential, especially with the very funny Andrews. If I remember correctly, the first episodes of The Simpsons and Seinfeld were also pretty flat until they found their groove.
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Eric doesn't need to be the lead. And like he did on his Mad Pundit show on Gst, he interrupts his co-hosts constantly. I like the concept but there is something missing. More Andrews? Southside? Something... Makes you appreciate what Wachs contributed. Love him or hate him, it kept the show interesting.
 
I thought the podcast was alright. Eric does like to overshadow the others, but it was fun never the less. My only suggestion
is to back off the mic Eric. The audio was distorting at times.
 
TheGreenskeeper said:
Eric Von Haessler, Jimmy Baron, Leonard Sharing, and Tim Andrews are podcastin’ - I like ‘em.

Hear for yourself at:
http://media.podshow.com/media/15140/episodes/81341/thejog-81341-09-28-2007_pshow_168210.mp3
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That's tough to listen to. Distorted audio. Two guys with bad voices guffawing self-consciously at their own cleverness and stepping all over one another. They are deathly afraid of any pauses, and the content seems directed by Eric who is in a race to cram in as many one-liners and political points as possible to show how smart he is, and neither one has anything really interesting to say about current events.

Then again, in today's programming climate, this is major market material.
 
That's tough to listen to. Distorted audio. Two guys with bad voices guffawing self-consciously at their own cleverness and stepping all over one another. They are deathly afraid of any pauses, and the content seems directed by Eric who is in a race to cram in as many one-liners and political points as possible to show how smart he is, and neither one has anything really interesting to say about current events.
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Look on the bright side only eight people heard it.
 
Tough crowd here. I thought it sounded like two guys who don’t know each other and aren’t comfortable working together yet. I see potential and I think they’ll improve.
 
seabass said:
... and neither one has anything really interesting to say about current events.
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Which basically puts current events on par with any other topic for them.
 
Wow.

I'm glad you guys didn't hear the first attempts at The Regular Guys Show. I would have just put a bullet in my head back then.

In response to a couple of things posted here:
1. The sound was pretty bad at first but I think #2 is a big improvement on that front.
2. Any good talk show sounds like forced conversation until it settles into a groove.
3. That 'something missing' is a staff (producers, engineers, etc.). It's a podcast, not a radio show. It should be compared to other podcasts, not other radio shows.
4. I agree that I'm learning to lead and that needs work.
5. Larry and I were told again and again that our style didn't have a chance to find an audience and all those people turned out to be wrong.

I've frankly been surprised at how well Jimmy and I work together. He's fun to work with and I'm proud of what we've put out there because I know how much better it can, and will get. I do appreciate good criticism but most of these remarks seem designed to strangle the baby in the crib. Give it some time to grow. I have the same feeling in my gut about this that I had about the Reg Guys before the ratings came.

Keep a slightly open mind and check out what we're doing from time to time. I think you'll hear growth.

Get some context for what we're doing at:
http://newsjog.blogspot.com/

Okay- Let the Flaming Begin!
 
middlega said:
seabass said:
... and neither one has anything really interesting to say about current events.
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Which basically puts current events on par with any other topic for them.
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Eh, what do you like outside of River-style, generic music programming? :)
 
ericvon said:
Wow.

I'm glad you guys didn't hear the first attempts at The Regular Guys Show. I would have just put a bullet in my head back then.

In response to a couple of things posted here:
1. The sound was pretty bad at first but I think #2 is a big improvement on that front.
2. Any good talk show sounds like forced conversation until it settles into a groove.
3. That 'something missing' is a staff (producers, engineers, etc.). It's a podcast, not a radio show. It should be compared to other podcasts, not other radio shows.
4. I agree that I'm learning to lead and that needs work.
5. Larry and I were told again and again that our style didn't have a chance to find an audience and all those people turned out to be wrong.

I've frankly been surprised at how well Jimmy and I work together. He's fun to work with and I'm proud of what we've put out there because I know how much better it can, and will get. I do appreciate good criticism but most of these remarks seem designed to strangle the baby in the crib. Give it some time to grow. I have the same feeling in my gut about this that I had about the Reg Guys before the ratings came.

Keep a slightly open mind and check out what we're doing from time to time. I think you'll hear growth.

Get some context for what we're doing at:
http://newsjog.blogspot.com/

Okay- Let the Flaming Begin!
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Excellent points! You go, Eric. Don't listen to these people. They are frustrated and few have achieved the success of TRG. From the sound of Atlanta morning radio these days, TRG is and will be the gold standard for a long time to come for any contemporary show in the market.

May I ask what your plans are for this podcast? Is it to be used to get back on the air soon? Have you received any interest from radio companies? What is Larry up to and will you be working with him or inviting him to be on the podcast? I think you should because he has the vision and creativity that Jimmy Baron does not. Jimmy may be nice and all, and I think he has some value as a #2 or #3 on a show, but he doesn't have the leading edge that a good show needs.

Good luck with this!!!!!
 
ericvon said:
Wow.

I'm glad you guys didn't hear the first attempts at The Regular Guys Show. I would have just put a bullet in my head back then.

In response to a couple of things posted here:
1. The sound was pretty bad at first but I think #2 is a big improvement on that front.
2. Any good talk show sounds like forced conversation until it settles into a groove.
3. That 'something missing' is a staff (producers, engineers, etc.). It's a podcast, not a radio show. It should be compared to other podcasts, not other radio shows.
4. I agree that I'm learning to lead and that needs work.
5. Larry and I were told again and again that our style didn't have a chance to find an audience and all those people turned out to be wrong.

I've frankly been surprised at how well Jimmy and I work together. He's fun to work with and I'm proud of what we've put out there because I know how much better it can, and will get. I do appreciate good criticism but most of these remarks seem designed to strangle the baby in the crib. Give it some time to grow. I have the same feeling in my gut about this that I had about the Reg Guys before the ratings came.

Keep a slightly open mind and check out what we're doing from time to time. I think you'll hear growth.

Get some context for what we're doing at:
http://newsjog.blogspot.com/

Okay- Let the Flaming Begin!
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Here, Here Eric. Good luck to you guys!
 
winreader said:
ericvon said:
Wow.

I'm glad you guys didn't hear the first attempts at The Regular Guys Show. I would have just put a bullet in my head back then.

In response to a couple of things posted here:
1. The sound was pretty bad at first but I think #2 is a big improvement on that front.
2. Any good talk show sounds like forced conversation until it settles into a groove.
3. That 'something missing' is a staff (producers, engineers, etc.). It's a podcast, not a radio show. It should be compared to other podcasts, not other radio shows.
4. I agree that I'm learning to lead and that needs work.
5. Larry and I were told again and again that our style didn't have a chance to find an audience and all those people turned out to be wrong.

I've frankly been surprised at how well Jimmy and I work together. He's fun to work with and I'm proud of what we've put out there because I know how much better it can, and will get. I do appreciate good criticism but most of these remarks seem designed to strangle the baby in the crib. Give it some time to grow. I have the same feeling in my gut about this that I had about the Reg Guys before the ratings came.

Keep a slightly open mind and check out what we're doing from time to time. I think you'll hear growth.

Get some context for what we're doing at:
http://newsjog.blogspot.com/

Okay- Let the Flaming Begin!
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What is Larry up to and will you be working with him or inviting him to be on the podcast? I think you should because he has the vision and creativity that Jimmy Baron does not. Jimmy may be nice and all, and I think he has some value as a #2 or #3 on a show, but he doesn't have the leading edge that a good show needs.
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I wouldn't count on Larry and Eric working together again. They hate each other (or at least, working with each other) and Eric has been pretty public about that. I agree about Jimmy being a good #2 guy for Eric but I think that's okay because Eric will get comfortable with the lead position. And while I agree that JB doesn't have the same cutting edge Wachs did (nor the eloquence), I wouldn't say he doesn't have vision or creativity. He did spearhead the Morning X to over a decade of success.
 
SalesWeasel said:
Eh, what do you like outside of River-style, generic music programming? :)
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Boy did you miss that one by a mile.
I can't listen to River for more than 5 minutes.
 
Eric, I applaud you very much for sticking up for yourself and Jimmy on this experiment. There are too many that get criticized and let the rumors overshadow the truth.

Guys, this is exactly what it was, an experiment. It answered the questions: a) "Can we have chemistry?" and b) "Can we develop that chemistry?" Like Eric and JB, I believe the answer to be yes. To be honest, I haven't listened to the podcasts and, truthfully, don't feel the need to. I've met Jimmy, and know just about as much about Eric as the common listener, which is less than he/she might think.

These guys are two broadcast veterans that I hope to acheive the same success that they have one day. "You easily can," the naysayers nay, "they're out of work." True, but that's the nature of the beast. The fact is that they're surviving and will be dominant in the field again, if they choose to be. That's also another career feat: being able to choose. Jimmy's already talking about TV show development that he's involved in. I'm sure Eric's got other ventures outside of radio. How many of us say we'd like to "dabble in this, dabble in that" but are stuck to our 40+hr week, barely making ends meet jobs? I know I do.
 
I agree that this was an experiment. It was an experiment that stunk up the kitchen. Now it is time to clean up the mess and start over again but with some different ingredients.
 
Eric don't listen to the naysayers. The same people whio though TRG was great were many of the same people who initially hated it. The ratings show that.

They are the same ones that said TRG sucks compared to Rude. Same thing this week Giant Brian sucks compared to TRG. Only time will tell that but how anyone comes to that conclusion after a couple of hours of air time is crazy.

Continue to experiment and find your groove. I actually though TRG near the end of the run was nowhere near it's peak of creativity from shows past. It ran its course many good things do. Same with the Morning X. The last couple of years was resting on its laurels.

I actually think Jimmy is more verstile then Larry in his producing skills. I say that only as a listener who saw alot more variety on that show. Larry seemed to be a lot of anger and sex and not much else.

Good luck to Jimmy and yopu. Plus hey Tim Andrews in the mix also that has to be some fun in there somewhere.
 
Hey, I liked it. Keep at it Eric...I'll keep downloading from iTunes...
 
After reading all the posts here I was not expecting much, so i downloaded the podcast and i liked it. It was better than most of what you can hear on Atlanta radio, and considering it's second show it'll only get better.
I do miss Larry though and wish all four of them could do a show together.
 
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