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WBZB back to WBON
- Thread starter wgliradio
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.. It just makes my skin crawl thinking back..... But karma has dealt me the happy hand...what went around, finally came around for him.......
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ericdavisroxx
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Hey George:
I am happy to hear that you are in that better place. I like you, are in a better place too. If you still have my number, call me. We'll talk.
As for the state of LI Rock Radio...It's time to get it right. These "oldie hybrid" stations that play the same 300 songs every week are well past their prime. The fact that an antiquated ratings system creates the illusion that they are doing better than they really are is what plagues this entire industry from coast to coast.
The reason why iPods, Internet and satellite are doing what they are doing is predominantly due to the fact that our industry is no longer in touch with their audiences or reality. Many of you can argue this point with me, but lets face this and do something about it. Arguing these issues with me are about as useful as "boobs on a bull." I really don't matter that much and my opinions matter even less.
Programmers and GM's read the comments posted on this board, and they keep turning a deaf ear to the reality of the situation. (they also deny reading this dribble.) I deal with advertisers every day and the outlook for traditional forms of media like radio are not as strong as they were 5 years ago. Advertisers have adjusted their budgets and taken away a large chunk of the dollars that radio used to get and placed them elsewhere. It is time to step up and find some solutions rather than take each decrease in overall radio revenues as part of the industry landscape.
That's just my 2 Cents.
I am happy to hear that you are in that better place. I like you, are in a better place too. If you still have my number, call me. We'll talk.
As for the state of LI Rock Radio...It's time to get it right. These "oldie hybrid" stations that play the same 300 songs every week are well past their prime. The fact that an antiquated ratings system creates the illusion that they are doing better than they really are is what plagues this entire industry from coast to coast.
The reason why iPods, Internet and satellite are doing what they are doing is predominantly due to the fact that our industry is no longer in touch with their audiences or reality. Many of you can argue this point with me, but lets face this and do something about it. Arguing these issues with me are about as useful as "boobs on a bull." I really don't matter that much and my opinions matter even less.
Programmers and GM's read the comments posted on this board, and they keep turning a deaf ear to the reality of the situation. (they also deny reading this dribble.) I deal with advertisers every day and the outlook for traditional forms of media like radio are not as strong as they were 5 years ago. Advertisers have adjusted their budgets and taken away a large chunk of the dollars that radio used to get and placed them elsewhere. It is time to step up and find some solutions rather than take each decrease in overall radio revenues as part of the industry landscape.
That's just my 2 Cents.
LI Radio Guy said:
I wonder if they will ever get rid of The Bone truck. I saw the article and now we know pretty much for sure 98.5 is going tropical.
Also I don't see a WLIR truck, I wonder what changes are coming to 107.1?
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ericdavisroxx
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Maybe they will recycle the truck and make it tropical, some of those bones with a little creativity can be transformed into palm trees!
We should all be wishing TMO the best of luck with this project. Hopefully for them it works. Long Island has a huge Hispanic community (some legal, some not so legal...I'll post about that at a later date and on a politically charged website) and this seems like a potential win for them. It would be very difficult to take back an audience that they alienated when they destroyed The Bone, so I can see the reasoning here. The Hispanic market is not familiar with the TMO name, so maybe they would be more inclined to buy time from what seems to be a new radio company. It's kind of a witness protection program for TMO. ;D
What they need to do with LIR is another story. I think the time has come to put away that tired format and do the same thing they are doing with 98.5. Something fresh and with an audience that does not know them too well.
I am all for a YouTube type of radio network....who's with me? Ah what am I talking about that would never work. It's like Country Music and Active Rock, formats that have no value on Long Island... This week I was in Bakersfield California and Pheonix Arizona. The people in these places are listening to Active Rock, Country and the Voice of God. Last month in Syracuse, Austin Texas and Philadelphia it was all about Rock and Country Music. Why is Long Island not able to support these formats? Times up gotta grab the Red Eye!
We should all be wishing TMO the best of luck with this project. Hopefully for them it works. Long Island has a huge Hispanic community (some legal, some not so legal...I'll post about that at a later date and on a politically charged website) and this seems like a potential win for them. It would be very difficult to take back an audience that they alienated when they destroyed The Bone, so I can see the reasoning here. The Hispanic market is not familiar with the TMO name, so maybe they would be more inclined to buy time from what seems to be a new radio company. It's kind of a witness protection program for TMO. ;D
What they need to do with LIR is another story. I think the time has come to put away that tired format and do the same thing they are doing with 98.5. Something fresh and with an audience that does not know them too well.
I am all for a YouTube type of radio network....who's with me? Ah what am I talking about that would never work. It's like Country Music and Active Rock, formats that have no value on Long Island... This week I was in Bakersfield California and Pheonix Arizona. The people in these places are listening to Active Rock, Country and the Voice of God. Last month in Syracuse, Austin Texas and Philadelphia it was all about Rock and Country Music. Why is Long Island not able to support these formats? Times up gotta grab the Red Eye!
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radioguy1580
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After having read all your posts I tuned in 98.5 to see whats up. I live in Meford and it comes in fringy here.
Well, they are stunting. Running the same 2-3 min heavily produced announcement over and over. Referring to the TMO Network.
Local radio returning.
And playing music clips from Right Said Fred to Dean Martin along with lots of movie drop-ins.
If they are going spanish then an english promo would be downright assinine.
Well, they are stunting. Running the same 2-3 min heavily produced announcement over and over. Referring to the TMO Network.
Local radio returning.
And playing music clips from Right Said Fred to Dean Martin along with lots of movie drop-ins.
If they are going spanish then an english promo would be downright assinine.
I heard the stunt loop all day today too. They seem to emphasize the "TMO Radio Network" and local radio. The stunt suggests that there will be an FM talk station similar to New Jersey 101.5 (which you should be able to pick up on LI tonight due to tropo). However, such a format will be costly to run.
First simulcasting Party 105 and then playing some music similar to Party 105 the next day in a stunt loop seems to lead in a different direction. Also, Party 105's playing more hip hop recently. We'll see what the new format will be.
First simulcasting Party 105 and then playing some music similar to Party 105 the next day in a stunt loop seems to lead in a different direction. Also, Party 105's playing more hip hop recently. We'll see what the new format will be.
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motnow
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Well there you have it....Spanish.
98.5 now has Spanish programming.
TMO has done it again!
Now I wonder... what language do they
have in store for "The World Famous 107.1 LIR".
98.5 now has Spanish programming.
TMO has done it again!
Now I wonder... what language do they
have in store for "The World Famous 107.1 LIR".
Nick said:
According to RadioandRecords.com, the Hamptons-Riverhead market has a population of 684,200, and is 10.9% Hispanic.
The key is that there is no other FM station on the east end that broadcasts in Spanish.
Personally, I would have preferred they move WLIR to 98.5 and put this (or another format) on 107.1.
This was tried in Philadelphia with Rumba 104.5, and that got next to no ratings and flipped to rock. 104.5 was a full-market signal. 98.5 has the worst coverage out of all the Manorville tower signals. Moving LIR to 98.5 isn't that good of an idea since 107.1 has been its home for the past 5 years or so.
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motnow
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I guess that explains why the "WBON" calls are coming back; perhaps its a Plan B (or is it C or D?) in case the Spanish format fails.
Regarding the 98.5 signal..I disagree. I think it makes a better trip to the West, but not much, than 107.1. I've never had a solid reception of 107.1 from Shoreham to Holbrook, but 98.5 seems to come in stronger in that area.
Regarding the 98.5 signal..I disagree. I think it makes a better trip to the West, but not much, than 107.1. I've never had a solid reception of 107.1 from Shoreham to Holbrook, but 98.5 seems to come in stronger in that area.
From today's LI BUZ NEWS
After unsuccessful attempts to sell its three Suffolk County radio stations, the Garden City-based Morey Organization has decided to punt.
The company will stand fast with its WLIR adult alternative station at 107.1 and add resources to Party 105, a young-adult dance format at 105.3.
The third station, a former classic rock channel at 98.5 with the call letters WBON, has been converted into La Nueva Fiesta, an all-Hispanic music, news and information format. It began broadcasting this week from Ronkonkoma and eventually will settle in Riverhead, and joins Latino Mix 92.7 – which simulcasts a Hispanic station from New York City – as the only Spanish-language FM broadcasts on Long Island.
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Link to article: http://www.libn.com/article.htm?articleID=40027
After unsuccessful attempts to sell its three Suffolk County radio stations, the Garden City-based Morey Organization has decided to punt.
The company will stand fast with its WLIR adult alternative station at 107.1 and add resources to Party 105, a young-adult dance format at 105.3.
The third station, a former classic rock channel at 98.5 with the call letters WBON, has been converted into La Nueva Fiesta, an all-Hispanic music, news and information format. It began broadcasting this week from Ronkonkoma and eventually will settle in Riverhead, and joins Latino Mix 92.7 – which simulcasts a Hispanic station from New York City – as the only Spanish-language FM broadcasts on Long Island.
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Link to article: http://www.libn.com/article.htm?articleID=40027
today's newsday
Vic Latino is returning to Long Island airwaves at dance-music station Party 105 (WDRE/105.3 FM).
The onetime fixture at New York City dance-music powerhouse WKTU (103.5 FM) will serve as morning co-host at Party 105. He'll also function as operations manager there and at two other Suffolk-based stations, WLIR (107.1 FM) and WBON (98.5 FM).
Latino will program all three stations.
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Link to Article : http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/friday/news/ny-etvic215383978sep21,0,5058800.story
Vic Latino is returning to Long Island airwaves at dance-music station Party 105 (WDRE/105.3 FM).
The onetime fixture at New York City dance-music powerhouse WKTU (103.5 FM) will serve as morning co-host at Party 105. He'll also function as operations manager there and at two other Suffolk-based stations, WLIR (107.1 FM) and WBON (98.5 FM).
Latino will program all three stations.
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Link to Article : http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/friday/news/ny-etvic215383978sep21,0,5058800.story
In response to motnow, reply #32 above...Why the return to the calls WBON did you ask??? The answer is simple...cause now, in this country, if you only speak english...you're all getting "The Bone", time after time again!!! Ain't that the truth!!!
TropoDuckie said:
No, I don't think it is "the truth"...How well they do at it notwithstanding, Morey has always focused on niche markets as a business model. So many here complain about cookie cutter radio. Say what you will about TMO, their mishandling of formats, treatment of employees etc., but you can't say they do anything cookie cutter. I'm curious to see how this latest BUSINESS decision pans out. It may not be to your liking musically, but on the surface, seems like a pretty good move.
As far as the calls go, they don't matter. Morey just seems to like their legacy calls, ie LIR and DRE. I guess they now put WBON in that category too. They don't do any marketing using WBON, and will keep them as a legal ID on the station. Other than at the TOH, I doubt you'll hear them. And now they are available again if this latest experiment fails.
I hope they realize that no one is going to listen to 98.5.. and the loyal fans of the bone like myself are going to wait until it is back Arbitron does not show how may listeners there were of WBON because seriously.... who the hell in their teen's and twenty's sometimes 30's get arbitron and fill it out?
I know a lot of people who still miss WLIR on 92.7 down towards the NYC area
we'll be waiting until Morey wake's up to reality if they ever do
bash me, mock me, etc... i am just putting in my two cents
-OZ
I know a lot of people who still miss WLIR on 92.7 down towards the NYC area
we'll be waiting until Morey wake's up to reality if they ever do
bash me, mock me, etc... i am just putting in my two cents
-OZ
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