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We're getting an Omnia ONE!
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Way you go whitfm.welcome to the Omnia club.Glad you found a solution.maybe wgli might shoot you a preset .
The airy effect you're referring to is something I'd call "apparent loudness." It's not brute force loudness...it's sort of a fake open/loudness effect...almost a compander like effect...hard to explain...but it's a pretty preset for a w i d e variety of formats including today's smashed stuff.
Well that's the thing I like about it, how it handles the smashed stuff. We're trying to play 80's stuff all the way through the hypercompressed current hits. It's awful trying to get your sound dialed in for all of that but the One made it a little easier for us for sure. What's this about wgli having a preset for it? Gonna be hard for me to leave my Cosmic preset, but I'm willing to try anything 
I have just installed a Omnia One at a friend's station in a small market. Although it's not quite as good as the 6 or an 8300, 8500, or other REALLY expensive boxes IMHO, it's pretty darn close for the bucks. For any smaller market station or budget-constricted station I'd most certainly recommend this box. It's quite good for the money.
To add to my previous post, I can't wait to try it on an AM when the AM version comes out. My guess is the small little differences between the One and the 12k boxes will not effect AM audio at all. I bet the AM version will serve as a an excellent AM processor!
I think it's really interesting to see a major processing company develop a unit at this price point. The One performs at the same level of processors 3 times its cost. Maybe Frank decided to take the Wal-Mart approach...sell a product only a few cents over your cost, and you'll sell a ton.
I'm actually supprised that Telos-Omnia decided to engage into the lower price processor game. I'm sure it has something to do with the BW DSP-X stuff out there. Being that Omnia is one of the two big boys, common marketing logic would be to cling to protecting their higher-priced product line. Hopefully it doesn't hurt their upper-ended processor sales!
OKCRadioGuy said:
Group,
Since the question was asked...Our sales/marketing gang went out and did research as to what the world marketplace needed, and this is wat they came back with. So, I listened, and we went in that direction.
But, at the same time, we have not abandoned our other efforts and are pushing forward with development on new stuff. Just as the PC industry brings out newer models with more power and functionality, they're also reducing cost. Same here. At the end of the day, while processing is our passion, it's also a business, and we need to be aware of that part too.
Sadly, for those attending NAB this year, there will be less companies there, and much is due to economic strife, and/or not keeping abreast of the business landscape.
OK, enough of the Biz-101 course for today!
-Frank Foti
Yes, Frank, a wise decision. For our two stations (Market 225--in Reds territory down by the river! and unrated), $10K+ for a processor is way out of range. Especially hard to justify when I just bought a new transmitter --top-of-the-line brand, for $18K. I've bought Orban products in the past, but they don't seem to have anything digital at a reasonable price. The Omnia 3--and now (apparently) the One, are realistically priced for small to medium market, without cutting corners on sound quality.
Engineering talent is spread thin nowadays. A contract or group engineer may handle a dozen stations. The same engineer who installed a "One" at a small market A last month--and had a good experience with that box; may be asked this month to recommend new processing for a medium market B. A good experience with a well built low-end product breeds confidence in the high end product (where I suspect you have a little more profit margin.
Oh, it's only a month to opening day, and three months to "ice-out" on the lake. Prediction: Indians win the pennant this year. Maybe even the series--we're due for a cold spell way down below where Steinbrenner, er, you know who, lives.
Engineering talent is spread thin nowadays. A contract or group engineer may handle a dozen stations. The same engineer who installed a "One" at a small market A last month--and had a good experience with that box; may be asked this month to recommend new processing for a medium market B. A good experience with a well built low-end product breeds confidence in the high end product (where I suspect you have a little more profit margin
.Oh, it's only a month to opening day, and three months to "ice-out" on the lake. Prediction: Indians win the pennant this year. Maybe even the series--we're due for a cold spell way down below where Steinbrenner, er, you know who, lives.
FFoti1 said:OKCRadioGuy said:
Group,
Since the question was asked...Our sales/marketing gang went out and did research as to what the world marketplace needed, and this is wat they came back with. So, I listened, and we went in that direction.
But, at the same time, we have not abandoned our other efforts and are pushing forward with development on new stuff. Just as the PC industry brings out newer models with more power and functionality, they're also reducing cost. Same here. At the end of the day, while processing is our passion, it's also a business, and we need to be aware of that part too.
Sadly, for those attending NAB this year, there will be less companies there, and much is due to economic strife, and/or not keeping abreast of the business landscape.
OK, enough of the Biz-101 course for today!
-Frank Foti
You know it's great seeing amazing products come from my hometown =)
That in and of itself was a big selling point for me!
But our station WIKD-LP in Daytona Beach, FL got our Omnia ONE box about a month or so ago.....Let's just say it's been everything I hoped it would be...and it's making our station sound loud, clear, and great!
However granted our station plays a ridiculous amount of different genres, I am having difficulty creating a preset that satisfies the needs of all the different types of music we play. I've adjusted the processor numerous times to try and solve the pumping/ breathing issues with our transmitter by turning down the drive, attack, and release of the bass, as well as adjusting the ThunderBass options avail. on the unit.....which it did, however that came at the sacrifice of clarity of the highs and mids depending on the music material being played. What I would like to have is that typical "Top-40's" station sound......but I'm having difficulty in achieving that....
-Robb
FFoti1 said:
=) That's a local call for me! I'll do it when I get some free time after 2pm!
Thanks Frank!
whitfm said:
That's funny. I guess I'm not the only one who thinks the Cosmic preset is the best to start with. I have an Omnia 1 hooked into my stereo system at home (yeah, I know...wtf, right?). When I hooked it up, I went to the Cosmic preset....and tweaked it out a little from there over the next week or so.
I think it sounds quite nice.
I must say, you all are getting me excited! An Omnia-One should be shipping my way next week... As a current Omnia-6ex, 3, another 3, and FM-Turbo user, I am really wondering how it will do... Personally, I think it will go toe-to-toe with the "big boys" in the market it will be in... Will report back when the new site is built here in another month...
StephanieNYC said:whitfm said:
That's funny. I guess I'm not the only one who thinks the Cosmic preset is the best to start with. I have an Omnia 1 hooked into my stereo system at home (yeah, I know...wtf, right?). When I hooked it up, I went to the Cosmic preset....and tweaked it out a little from there over the next week or so.
I think it sounds quite nice.
Stephanie, I would love to hear about the tweaks you made to the Cosmic preset. I am a rookie with Omnias, so all I've done so far is just test different presets!
It seems like the One is a processor with a sweet spot which will really make your sound pop once you find it. I'm trying to get mine dialed in there. I have been on a quest to get our sound similar to WSB-FM in Atlanta (we're not in Atlanta, I just like 'em). I think we may be a LOT closer now with the One.
Happy processing folks!
whitfm said:
I basically just altered the attack and delay speeds on all four bands (increased attack speed on highs, especially). Also played a little with the AGC. I can't exactly remember what settings I have off the top of my head, but this Saturday I can look and write them down and give them to you.....
Although you're better off going with what you hear through your own earphones, to be safe.
Besides, on Saturday, my processor-guru friend will stop by to hear it and tell me how badly I screwed it up, or not. HAHAHAHA
StephanieNYC said:whitfm said:
I basically just altered the attack and delay speeds on all four bands (increased attack speed on highs, especially). Also played a little with the AGC. I can't exactly remember what settings I have off the top of my head, but this Saturday I can look and write them down and give them to you.....
Although you're better off going with what you hear through your own earphones, to be safe.
Besides, on Saturday, my processor-guru friend will stop by to hear it and tell me how badly I screwed it up, or not. HAHAHAHA
Cool, thanks!
whitfm said:StephanieNYC said:Besides, on Saturday, my processor-guru friend will stop by to hear it and tell me how badly I screwed it up, or not. HAHAHAHA
Cool, thanks!
So it turns out my golden-eared friend tells me I tend to favor a very "open" sound. It's the second processor he's heard me tweak.
Last night we were listening to some WNBC and WABC airchecks....damn, those things sounded balls-to-the-walls heavy! Great on talk, especially WNBC, but I think it sucked on music -- he looked at me like I was nuts. ;D :-\
Most likely Dorrough 310's. Recently I have been listening to clips of 310's and 610's. It's a shame I never had a chance to work with these units. I've been in the trenches for 21 years but never worked where they had Dorrough boxes. A few months back I chatted with the retired chief of CHUM FM in Toronto. He used the 310's and 610's at CHUM until 2001 when they switched to Omnia.
StephanieNYC said:whitfm said:StephanieNYC said:Besides, on Saturday, my processor-guru friend will stop by to hear it and tell me how badly I screwed it up, or not. HAHAHAHA
Cool, thanks!
So it turns out my golden-eared friend tells me I tend to favor a very "open" sound. It's the second processor he's heard me tweak.
Last night we were listening to some WNBC and WABC airchecks....damn, those things sounded balls-to-the-walls heavy! Great on talk, especially WNBC, but I think it sucked on music -- he looked at me like I was nuts. ;D :-\
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