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bigtime said:
You are correct, I do miss his style. It's just not the same with him gone. I hope he's doing well.
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You are correct, I do miss his style. It's just not the same with him gone. I hope he's doing well.
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words2you
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richmcdonald said:Words2you, you are an over zealous jealous person and I totally disagree with you. I would love to here your best effort, or go to your job to see how great you are.
Wow, I didnt mean to upset so many people. I had several emails that were really negative. Sorry, I have been gone from Indianapolis for several years and it just seemed that way to me, just an opinion. Did not know I was touching a sore subject for some.
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flashback
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words2you said:richmcdonald said:Words2you, you are an over zealous jealous person and I totally disagree with you. I would love to here your best effort, or go to your job to see how great you are.
Wow, I didnt mean to upset so many people. I had several emails that were really negative. Sorry, I have been gone from Indianapolis for several years and it just seemed that way to me, just an opinion. Did not know I was touching a sore subject for some.
don`t let them get to you. you are entitled to your opinion.
It's a more open question than that. What happened to Chicago radio, Indy radio, Cincinnati radio, medium-market radio that had news staffs, St. Louis radio, Detroit radio.....radio in general. It's why more & more young people, those who would be radio's future listeners, are turning to ipods, mp3s, cell phones, and other more sophisticated means of listening to music.
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words2you
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This younger generation known as "echo boomers" kids born roughly between 1982 and 1995. They are going to be the most educated, saviest buyers in history and more demanding too. They will look at technology like we looked at microwave ovens. Because of their large numbers they will change the World after generation x has its short period. What your indentifing is a challenge marketers all over the World are trying to figure out.
Radio has a real challenge in the future. Thats is why Forbes magazine said to stay clear of any radio Career in the next 10 years. But, many other busineses will have a rocky road to travel too. In a time where change occurs in such a rapid rate. These big broadcast companies are going to have some real tough times trying to adapt quickly enough to meet the changes. As everyone knows who worked for a large company, change comes very slow.
Do you guys think that radio may be a dieing medium?
Radio has a real challenge in the future. Thats is why Forbes magazine said to stay clear of any radio Career in the next 10 years. But, many other busineses will have a rocky road to travel too. In a time where change occurs in such a rapid rate. These big broadcast companies are going to have some real tough times trying to adapt quickly enough to meet the changes. As everyone knows who worked for a large company, change comes very slow.
Do you guys think that radio may be a dieing medium?
Another problem with radio in general - partial blame goes to corporate, but even MORE blame should go to those who are independent owners that forget radio is to serve the PUBLIC, and not as their own MP3 player.
Difficult for 50-something independent owners to put their egos aside and program for public consumption, as opposed to what they think is COOL! (kind of like if Flashback won the lottery and purchased a station - Robin Trower for everyone! - sorry, just an example dude.)
Difficult for 50-something independent owners to put their egos aside and program for public consumption, as opposed to what they think is COOL! (kind of like if Flashback won the lottery and purchased a station - Robin Trower for everyone! - sorry, just an example dude.)
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radioho said:Another problem with radio in general - partial blame goes to corporate, but even MORE blame should go to those who are independent owners that forget radio is to serve the PUBLIC, and not as their own MP3 player.
Difficult for 50-something independent owners to put their egos aside and program for public consumption, as opposed to what they think is COOL! (kind of like if Flashback won the lottery and purchased a station - Robin Trower for everyone! - sorry, just an example dude.)
there it is. never mind the idea of all elvis or beatles stations.
all robin trower all the time. ;D
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richmcdonald
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words2you said:This younger generation known as "echo boomers" kids born roughly between 1982 and 1995. They are going to be the most educated, saviest buyers in history and more demanding too. They will look at technology like we looked at microwave ovens. Because of their large numbers they will change the World after generation x has its short period. What your indentifing is a challenge marketers all over the World are trying to figure out.
Radio has a real challenge in the future. Thats is why Forbes magazine said to stay clear of any radio Career in the next 10 years. But, many other busineses will have a rocky road to travel too. In a time where change occurs in such a rapid rate. These big broadcast companies are going to have some real tough times trying to adapt quickly enough to meet the changes. As everyone knows who worked for a large company, change comes very slow.
Do you guys think that radio may be a dieing medium?
That is very interesting, I have never heard the term "echo boomer" before. Radio has proven itself to be very adaptive in the past. For example When TV began to get popular and when FM began to take off. But, you have a point about the large companies trying to keep up with the times. Few would disagree with me that broadcasting has never been a great career choice. Low pay, lack of job security etc.
words2you said:Radio has a real challenge in the future. These big broadcast companies are going to have some real tough times trying to adapt quickly enough to meet the changes. As everyone knows who worked for a large company, change comes very slow.
Do you guys think that radio may be a dieing medium?
Is Radio a dieing medium? NO!
All you have to do is check the facts:
1) The preliminaries from RADAR 96 show that radio reaches 235 MILLION listeners each week in the United States, UP from last year's 232 million. The complete report was released TODAY at the arbitron website.
2) The FCC's latest reckoning shows that there are now 13,977 licensed radio stations in the United States, UP 14% from ten years ago. (see FCC website).
Is Radio dieing - NO! Instead of insinuating it IS going to die, why not look at the FACTS! And why not blame OPERATORS for NOT giving listeners what they want - INSTEAD of blaming the DELIVERY METHOD?
MP3's can only hold songs you have installed in them. People want to hear songs before purchasing them. Radio is free - it is a companion. It always will be as long as it's free.
The MP3 argument can be shot down by the simple comparison of HBO and HBO On Demand. How many times have you watched PARTS of shows on premiums channels over and over, but have yet to go watch the movie from start to finish with your On Demand? There may be some movies you did this with, but in general, even though you can read a review of all the movies, it's easier to just surf, check out bits and pieces, and keep on surfing the channels.
Radio connects a person with a community. Radio plays songs you wouldn't normally put into your MP3 player, but still enjoy hearing.
Is Radio dieing, NO - It's GROWING.
It's just unfortunate only an elite few are allowed to spew forth crap. Blame THEM, NOT the medium.
Radio is not dying.
It is, however, changing dramatically.
I wish I had more firsthand knowledge of what the business was like when orchestras and live comedies and dramas gave way to recorded music, or even a firmer understanding of how FM overtook AM when I was a teenager.
We are led [by some] to believe that those were seamless transitions and that radio never missed a beat. Now, I'm no friggin' genius, but common sense tells me that it couldn't have been that smooth. Radio of the 50s and of the 70s had to be as bumpy a ride as radio in the 2000s.
The difference I see is this: the people in radio at those earlier junctures were better equipped to make those transitions. Perhaps more correctly, people who were better prepared to perform in the next phase of radio came along to make that next great chapter. Unfortunately, we now live in a radio world where consultantism has literally sucked all the personality out of radio. Every station -- not just the ones run by the Evil Empires -- has "streamlined" its jocks down to reading liner cards soaked by the oversaturation of selling every square inch in the pursuit of increasing revenue every quarter. How can a jock demonstrate any personality in the consultant-mandated break of 50 seconds or less when 45 of those seconds are consumed by sponsor copy? As a result, we have an entire generation of on-air talents who can't think for themselves, so they couldn't inject any flavor into a broadcast if suddenly given the freedom to do so because they either don't know how or don't even recognize what personality is. Worst of all, the generation that should follow after them doesn't even exist because colleges no longer teach radio and all the entry- and mid-level gigs -- from small markets to after-dark dayparts in major markets -- are coming from a server or a satellite. This is a lot like the greater question this nation now faces with Social Security; how can those of the next generation take the reins from their predecessors when they are too ill-equipped to know the front end of the horse?
The problem is not the medium, just as it was not the problem in the 50s and the 70s.
The problem is the method and, much like those earlier times, figuring out how -- and whom -- to execute a new one.
It is, however, changing dramatically.
I wish I had more firsthand knowledge of what the business was like when orchestras and live comedies and dramas gave way to recorded music, or even a firmer understanding of how FM overtook AM when I was a teenager.
We are led [by some] to believe that those were seamless transitions and that radio never missed a beat. Now, I'm no friggin' genius, but common sense tells me that it couldn't have been that smooth. Radio of the 50s and of the 70s had to be as bumpy a ride as radio in the 2000s.
The difference I see is this: the people in radio at those earlier junctures were better equipped to make those transitions. Perhaps more correctly, people who were better prepared to perform in the next phase of radio came along to make that next great chapter. Unfortunately, we now live in a radio world where consultantism has literally sucked all the personality out of radio. Every station -- not just the ones run by the Evil Empires -- has "streamlined" its jocks down to reading liner cards soaked by the oversaturation of selling every square inch in the pursuit of increasing revenue every quarter. How can a jock demonstrate any personality in the consultant-mandated break of 50 seconds or less when 45 of those seconds are consumed by sponsor copy? As a result, we have an entire generation of on-air talents who can't think for themselves, so they couldn't inject any flavor into a broadcast if suddenly given the freedom to do so because they either don't know how or don't even recognize what personality is. Worst of all, the generation that should follow after them doesn't even exist because colleges no longer teach radio and all the entry- and mid-level gigs -- from small markets to after-dark dayparts in major markets -- are coming from a server or a satellite. This is a lot like the greater question this nation now faces with Social Security; how can those of the next generation take the reins from their predecessors when they are too ill-equipped to know the front end of the horse?
The problem is not the medium, just as it was not the problem in the 50s and the 70s.
The problem is the method and, much like those earlier times, figuring out how -- and whom -- to execute a new one.
words2you said:richmcdonald said:Words2you, you are an over zealous jealous person and I totally disagree with you. I would love to here your best effort, or go to your job to see how great you are.
Wow, I didnt mean to upset so many people. I had several emails that were really negative. Sorry, I have been gone from Indianapolis for several years and it just seemed that way to me, just an opinion. Did not know I was touching a sore subject for some.
Awww..screw em'......last I heard,we still practice freedom of speech and in print....
As the human species goes, everything will come to an end or fail in some way. Maybe sooner than later, radio will die in Indianapolis and the owners, station managers, etc will be sittin' on their a$$es scratchin' their heads and wondering what the hell happened. We tend not to believe we see a end in sight.........
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Timewarp said:We may always have radio in some form. For 50 years AM ruled. Then 25 years of FM. Now
here comes WIFI. We're using it right now. If you don't think WIFI will take over, then you
may be just like those who said,"We will always need the horse and buggy."
That is is right there, to many old people in the way with archaic philosophies and ideas.
They said those same things in the 60s and 70s "Bill Drake came along and sucked all the personality out of radio" (after the cowbells and overly long jock breaks were trimmed). The personalities who could work within that system were great personalities! In the 70s, FMs with less talk,same thing was said. This is nothing at all new.
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radioindy
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richmcdonald said:Words2you, you are an over zealous jealous person and I totally disagree with you. I would love to here your best effort, or go to your job to see how great you are.
That is a lame attack. If you are on radio/tv or choose any occupation that puts you in the public eye, you also have to take the negative feedback. Why must everyone tell you how great you are, but not be allowed to voice an opinion that they preferred an individual/previous product to the current one?
All you people who are so easily offended should NOT be in this business. As individuals and as businesses we ALL have flaws. But when you CHOOSE to put yourself out there in the public's face, unlike any other industry, you must also be man/woman enough to take the criticism as well as the praise.
Like a comic who uses that 'unprofessional' line of 'what if I come to YOUR office and heckle YOU all day?'
Well Mr Comic (or radio personality) - YOU invited ME to come see you because by getting on stage YOU are claiming to be FUNNY, asked me to PAY to see YOU, then get upset because I don't find you funny. So you want to come to MY office, uninvited, to heckle ME at MY job, which I never confessed to be GREAT or even GOOD at like YOU are insinuating by being ON STAGE ...
or ON AIR as in this case.
GROW UP!
There was a guy from here in Lafayette who was quite ruthless in his personal attacks on the radio
gossip board.
Then people figured out who he was. They in turn gave critical reviews of his station and
his show.
Boy, he started crying like a baby. Sure could dish it out, but couldn't take it back.
Treat others as you wish to be treated.
gossip board.
Then people figured out who he was. They in turn gave critical reviews of his station and
his show.
Boy, he started crying like a baby. Sure could dish it out, but couldn't take it back.
Treat others as you wish to be treated.
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words2you
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You articulated it perfectly. This guy wasn’t the only one to get upset. Several e-mails attacking me too. If it weren’t such a valid point it wouldn’t have stirred up such emotion.radioindy said:richmcdonald said:Words2you, you are an over zealous jealous person and I totally disagree with you. I would love to here your best effort, or go to your job to see how great you are.
That is a lame attack.
or ON AIR as in this case.
GROW UP!
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