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What is up with indie 1031???

Triple a been there in 2000 it was triple a world class rock ring a bell but cmon i repeat what i said dance chr, hot ac, modern ac, soft rock, active, alternative, dance talk or whatever! Nothing is gonna garner good numbers. Indie did hit a 1.0 a few times. I liked the party station but like indie alot better!!! Do not anyone fool yourselves nuttin is gonna command good numbers the main problem is the signal no ifs ands or buts!!!
 
Three problems with Indie .... The Signal, The Signal, and The Signal :)

I'm in my office in Brea (north OC) and I can't pick up a listenable signal so I find myself (when I'm in the mood) listening to their very good Internet stream.

BTW the mention of World Class Rock which was Channel 103.1 reminds me wayyyy back in 2000 when they left 103.1 (in September 2000) to become the first station to try a regular radio station going to Internet stream only. I remember back then they were hoping and praying that the Internet would be mobile in a short time. We are still waiting ....

I still think AAA would be an OK choice 8) for a signal like Indie's but I would suggest that 92.7 JILL-FM go that route to replace the very lame broad playlist of much pop music no one else plays ---and you'll realize there's a good reason for that if you sample JILL-FM now and then!

np: MGMT - Kids [on Indie]
 
Indie plays a few triple a artists for when they went on the air they i read that they said not corporate rock not triple a so i asume a hybrid of sorts. If indie does get blown up :mad: triple a would do no better then what they have now. KSRW remember them i know non comm but still.
 
SuperRadioFan said:
BTW the mention of World Class Rock which was Channel 103.1 reminds me wayyyy back in 2000 when they left 103.1 (in September 2000) to become the first station to try a regular radio station going to Internet stream only.
np: MGMT - Kids [on Indie]

KNAC.COM was the first to do that in 1997. We're still around. ;D
 
lpAZ said:
KNAC.COM was the first to do that in 1997. We're still around. ;D

Uhhhhh NO!! KNAC left the air IIRC February 15, 1995 a two years before 1997. The KNAC @ 105.5 which left the air after playing Black - Pearl Jam (is my memory correct?) AFAIK did not retain the same DJs did they? Also, webstreaming in Feb '95 was yet to come OR it was in it's infancy.

As far as Groove Radio.com again they did NOT go DIRECTLY to the Internet on the day they left FM.

I say again the first station to simultaneously (actually they were streaming for a while) leave the air on FM and continue their exact programming (which was already being streamed at that moment) 1 second later on the Internet was Channel 103.1 World Class Rock.
 
SuperRadioFan said:
lpAZ said:
KNAC.COM was the first to do that in 1997. We're still around. ;D

Uhhhhh NO!! KNAC left the air IIRC February 15, 1995 a two years before 1997. The KNAC @ 105.5 which left the air after playing Black - Pearl Jam (is my memory correct?) AFAIK did not retain the same DJs did they? Also, webstreaming in Feb '95 was yet to come OR it was in it's infancy.

As far as Groove Radio.com again they did NOT go DIRECTLY to the Internet on the day they left FM.

I say again the first station to simultaneously (actually they were streaming for a while) leave the air on FM and continue their exact programming (which was already being streamed at that moment) 1 second later on the Internet was Channel 103.1 World Class Rock.

Fair enough, we didn't go directly from FM to the Net. We did however have many KNAC FM staffers with us, we still do. The last song the FM played was Metallica's Fade To Black.
 
BRH said:
Dance seems to be gaining some strength recently.

The Zeitgeist is totally wrong for Dance music to thrive. If you haven't noticed, or you reside in the Pollyanna-ish alternate universe alot of dance fanatics seem to prefer, people's homes are being foreclosed upon and the job market is, to say the least, softening, not quite the circumstances that would lure the masses to the dance floor for a grand 'ole party.
 
Oops, I forgot to mention the steep rises in gas and food prices too! :)
 
That has nothing to do with it. :mad: If any of you had my life for a day and had to deal with all the Hurt, pain (PHYSICAL AND MENTAL), Rejection, and Lonliness I deal with everyday you would probably Kill yourself. I lost the love of my life twice within 3 months, one girl of which was married to me for 7 years I lost to my best friend. I also am living in my parent's house again at nearly 30 yrs of age, and im unemployed to top that off.... None of these things stop me from partying or listening to Dance Music, in fact Dance Music is my only positive escape from reality. Not all Dance fans are Guidos driving BMWs and living in a three story house in the suburbs.
 
SuperRadioFan said:
lpAZ said:
KNAC.COM was the first to do that in 1997. We're still around. ;D

Uhhhhh NO!! KNAC left the air IIRC February 15, 1995 a two years before 1997. The KNAC @ 105.5 which left the air after playing Black - Pearl Jam (is my memory correct?) AFAIK did not retain the same DJs did they? Also, webstreaming in Feb '95 was yet to come OR it was in it's infancy.

As far as Groove Radio.com again they did NOT go DIRECTLY to the Internet on the day they left FM.

I say again the first station to simultaneously (actually they were streaming for a while) leave the air on FM and continue their exact programming (which was already being streamed at that moment) 1 second later on the Internet was Channel 103.1 World Class Rock.

They might also be the first station to have had a bigger internet audience than they ever had on FM radio.
 
BACKnUSSR said:
SuperRadioFan said:
lpAZ said:
KNAC.COM was the first to do that in 1997. We're still around. ;D

Uhhhhh NO!! KNAC left the air IIRC February 15, 1995 a two years before 1997. The KNAC @ 105.5 which left the air after playing Black - Pearl Jam (is my memory correct?) AFAIK did not retain the same DJs did they? Also, webstreaming in Feb '95 was yet to come OR it was in it's infancy.

As far as Groove Radio.com again they did NOT go DIRECTLY to the Internet on the day they left FM.

I say again the first station to simultaneously (actually they were streaming for a while) leave the air on FM and continue their exact programming (which was already being streamed at that moment) 1 second later on the Internet was Channel 103.1 World Class Rock.

They might also be the first station to have had a bigger internet audience than they ever had on FM radio.

True dat! Like Indie the only real problem that station ever had was the stick.
 
Even if Indie was on Mount Wilson they would be lucky to get a 1.2 at best, that wouldnt even pay for the cost of running such a facility.
 
If you want to blame the signal, just flash back to KMPC-FM, later called "The Edge." This was a AAA-ish venture on 101.9 with JJ Jackson at the helm. All you heard about from them was how they couldn't get ratings because of their signal.

When the station went to a Spanish language format, though, they suddenly shot up to the top of the ratings. So much for the signal theory....
 
How many times mst this be repeated the signal for 103.1 is the problem no ifs ands or buts oh theer are others like no big artists liek someone mentioned earlier but the signal is 90% of it.
 
lpAZ said:
Fair enough, we didn't go directly from FM to the Net. We did however have many KNAC FM staffers with us, we still do. The last song the FM played was Metallica's Fade To Black.

That's cool that you have the same staffers... Thanks for jogging my memory about the last song ... I did hear it as it was going on live. Sad day for FM radio.
 
BACKnUSSR said:
They (Channel 103.1) might also be the first station to have had a bigger internet audience than they ever had on FM radio.

Haha as midwest said, that IS funny but very true. I recorded some air checks of their programming after the migration to the Internet. They actually got a lot better and more broad and expansive in their playlist. Too bad they couldn't keep it up, luckily these days there's plenty of streams (Internet-only and OTA) available for AAA fans to get their fix. :)
Right now I am listening to the stream of WXPK 107.1 The Peak Westchester County "in New York's Back Yard" ... They're currently playing Squeeze's "Coffee in Bed" or is it "Black Coffee in Bed"?
 
scooty430 said:
If you want to blame the signal, just flash back to KMPC-FM, later called "The Edge." This was a AAA-ish venture on 101.9 with JJ Jackson at the helm. All you heard about from them was how they couldn't get ratings because of their signal.

When the station went to a Spanish language format, though, they suddenly shot up to the top of the ratings. So much for the signal theory....

Scooty, the short-lived (fall 1987-May 1989) KMPC-FM/The Edge was one of my all-time favorite radio stations. I remember they had a listener response question: Not enough Bruce, Too much Bruce, or just enough Bruce. Aren't many stations these days like that (if any!)

But I have to correct you... Remember they became K-Light (KLIT) from May '89-July 1, 1994 before thay became FM 101.9 later KSCA LA's Finest Rock. THEN they went Spanish in Feb '97. Nicole and Co at KSCA were the ones complaining about the ratings as related to the signal. As for KMPC-FM, JJ Jackson along with Jim Ladd and Rachael Donohue knew they weren't going to pull any ratings above a 1 share.
 
SuperRadioFan said:
scooty430 said:
If you want to blame the signal, just flash back to KMPC-FM, later called "The Edge." This was a AAA-ish venture on 101.9 with JJ Jackson at the helm. All you heard about from them was how they couldn't get ratings because of their signal.

When the station went to a Spanish language format, though, they suddenly shot up to the top of the ratings. So much for the signal theory....

Scooty, the short-lived (fall 1987-May 1989) KMPC-FM/The Edge was one of my all-time favorite radio stations. I remember they had a listener response question: Not enough Bruce, Too much Bruce, or just enough Bruce. Aren't many stations these days like that (if any!)

But I have to correct you... Remember they became K-Light (KLIT) from May '89-July 1, 1994 before thay became FM 101.9 later KSCA LA's Finest Rock. THEN they went Spanish in Feb '97. Nicole and Co at KSCA were the ones complaining about the ratings as related to the signal. As for KMPC-FM, JJ Jackson along with Jim Ladd and Rachael Donohue knew they weren't going to pull any ratings above a 1 share.

You're right. I have the sequence of all this mixed up. (Must be getting old.)

And I agree. KMPC-FM was a great station. I recorded the final three hours on cassette and still have it. Also have a KMPC-FM sweathshirt!

KSCA was pretty cool too. Not sure why somebody doesn't actually do AAA here. Sure, it wouldn't get huge ratings, but it would have a killer Westside rich person demo.
 
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