What's happening at live???

[kenrayc]

How do you get a PPM? I'm just wondering

You are randomly chosen, I've been chosen about 7 times to do a diary for both radio and TV.

 

[travisl5678]

Do you apply though?

 

[kenrayc]

Do you apply though?

No not at all, It's like getting picked for Jury Duty, except you don't go to jail if you don't do it. I don't know if they select your address or your SS# at random.

 

[kenrayc]

I was picked to due the Arbitron for radio 4 times and Nielson for tv 3 times, I think they use the address, the first for TV was at my parents house in 1978, the rest was at my own residents. 2 times they called and wanted to know if I wanted to do a survey, the others were by mail, the 7 times were 1978 for TV, 1980 for TV, 1983 for radio, 1985 for Radio, 1988 for Tv, 1989 For Radio,1992 for radio.

 

[DavidKaye]

What are you talking about? Top 40 is primarily a current-based format -- always has been, always will be. It's how the format was designed to be.

But the Top 40 design doesn't work anymore because it includes music from lots of genres people simply won't listen to. I've pointed this out time and again. For Top 40 to fulfill its definition, it would be heavy in hip-hoppers Usher and Ludacris, pop stars Lady Ga Ga and Beyonce, and country performers Brad Paisley and Clay Walker. Sorry, but people don't listen to mixes like that anymore.

Interesting thing about your database -- the Top 100 chart is only around 55 years old, so I wonder where those extra years of yours came from.

The earlier years are compiled from sheet music sales, counts of record pressings, radio and bandstand requests, and other various methods.

 

[weav]

But the Top 40 design doesn't work anymore because it includes music from lots of genres people simply won't listen to. I've pointed this out time and again. For Top 40 to fulfill its definition, it would be heavy in hip-hoppers Usher and Ludacris, pop stars Lady Ga Ga and Beyonce, and country performers Brad Paisley and Clay Walker. Sorry, but people don't listen to mixes like that anymore.

What you just described sounds like Movin' to me...

 

[RockTheGlobe]

What are you talking about? Top 40 is primarily a current-based format -- always has been, always will be. It's how the format was designed to be.

But the Top 40 design doesn't work anymore because it includes music from lots of genres people simply won't listen to. I've pointed this out time and again. For Top 40 to fulfill its definition, it would be heavy in hip-hoppers Usher and Ludacris, pop stars Lady Ga Ga and Beyonce, and country performers Brad Paisley and Clay Walker. Sorry, but people don't listen to mixes like that anymore.

Interesting thing about your database -- the Top 100 chart is only around 55 years old, so I wonder where those extra years of yours came from.

The earlier years are compiled from sheet music sales, counts of record pressings, radio and bandstand requests, and other various methods.

Seriously, I'm beginning to think you live on another planet where radio is completely different from what we have here in the U.S. Right now, an Usher song is top-five at the nation's biggest Top 40 stations (KIIS/Los Angeles and Z100/New York), and a song featuring Ludacris is in the top 10 at both stations. Lady Antebellum (a country act) hit No. 1 at Top 40 with "Need You Now," and Taylor Swift, who's had multiple Top 40 hits, is a country crossover artist. Needless to say, it appears people are listening to playlists like these, since Top 40 stations are No. 1 in cities like L.A. (with another Top 40 just outside the top five), Dallas and Minneapolis; in New York, Z100 is in the top three.

As for your database, I wasn't asking where those numbers were gathered from, I was asking who did them, because if you compiled them yourself, that's a little suspect. I was pointing out that Billboard didn't start tracking the Top 100 chart until the mid-1950s.

 

[SFStatic]

You are correct about the Top 100 chart. Joel Whitburn has put out a series of books for decades, including Top Pop Singles 1955-2008 (latest version I've seen.) He also has put out a number of other books, including Pop Memories, 1890-1954. That book uses Billboard data from 1933-1954, and other sales from earlier publications prior to that.

 

[radiojomo]

Do you apply though?

I participated in one of the last quarter surveys here in LA and they called my household from a random phone number generator.

 

[DavidKaye]

What you just described sounds like Movin' to me...

Okay, I'll give it a listen and see.

 

[DavidKaye]

As for your database, I wasn't asking where those numbers were gathered from, I was asking who did them, because if you compiled them yourself, that's a little suspect. I was pointing out that Billboard didn't start tracking the Top 100 chart until the mid-1950s.

I bought the list from a company that compiles this sort of thing. I'm using it for some software I've been writing that depends on accurate data.

 

[musicfan101]

Is someone able to let me know why La Roux's "Bulletproof" just played on Live 105?! I checked the stream I was listening to, and yes it was Live 105. This is beginning to get pathetic...

 

[kenrayc]

Is someone able to let me know why La Roux's "Bulletproof" just played on Live 105?! I checked the stream I was listening to, and yes it was Live 105. This is beginning to get pathetic...

Looks like live 105 is going more like Movin don't know why they would go that route, 92.3 KSJO sounds better IMO.

 

[sfradio]

You where listening to live 105's free for all, where you can request pretty much anything

 

[musicfan101]

You where listening to live 105's free for all, where you can request pretty much anything

Live has played this song a few times during the day. Not to mention, on the Free for All, you can't request "anything", you could only request songs that are already on the Live 105 playlist.

 

[travisl5678]

I've heard it to during the day.Live seems to be boucing all over the place with its format.I am now convinced that a format change is immenent,I'll bet on soon after the next Arbs come out

 

[musicman3355]

You where listening to live 105's free for all, where you can request pretty much anything

That still doesn't make sense though. Live 105 is known as an alternative station, not the hit music station. I've also heard Eminem's "Not Afraid" and Mike Posner's "Cooler Than Me" on Live 105. Are they accidently getting the records from Movin 99.7 or what? ???

 

[musicfan101]

I've heard it to during the day.Live seems to be boucing all over the place with its format.I am now convinced that a format change is immenent,I'll bet on soon after the next Arbs come out

Naw, I don't think anything will happen anytime soon. Live just picked up Raiders football, and CBS hasn't seemed to care about their ratings for awhile. If I am wrong, I wonder if 105.3 would pick up the Pulse format running on KMVQ's HD2? I know what everyone is going to say about the format being dance and all, but KNGY supposedly made tons of money off their product.

 

[weav]

Energy billed something like a million and had a cash flow of around half a million, before the crushing debt service, IIRC. That's not exactly tons of money but not bad for the weakest signal in the market, either. It had a "power ratio" (share of billing / share of audience) up there with Live and other leaders.

Now if Live were going to go dance, I think there's be definite signs, such as air staff being gathered. Haven't heard of such events but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not happening. The tracks named here don't seem to point to a dance format...

BTW, I think the Raiders will only be on the HD2 signal, not on the analog FM...

 

[musicfan101]

Energy billed something like a million and had a cash flow of around half a million, before the crushing debt service, IIRC. That's not exactly tons of money but not bad for the weakest signal in the market, either. It had a "power ratio" (share of billing / share of audience) up there with Live and other leaders.

Now if Live were going to go dance, I think there's be definite signs, such as air staff being gathered. Haven't heard of such events but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not happening. The tracks named here don't seem to point to a dance format...

BTW, I think the Raiders will only be on the HD2 signal, not on the analog FM...

I don't think you have to have an airstaff ready when a station flips. A station will just go along with a month of commercial free songs or 10,000 songs in a row, and then they'll hire someone. According to live105.com, Raider games will be simulcast on 105.3 and AM 1550.