We do?
Also, the sound quality is terrible in my experience (meaning hearing other people's phones).
Now I will admit AM in my car isn't either but I'm used to that.
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Where will the ALT 92.3 Refugees Go? Options?
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Also, the sound quality is terrible in my experience (meaning hearing other people's phones).
Now I will admit AM in my car isn't either but I'm used to that.
The speakers in phones are generally not good, because of the space constraints. There is little market pressure to improve the speakers due to the popularity of headphones.
If you think "stream on your phone" means listening on the phone speaker and comparing the quality to AM radio, then I guess we don't all know how to do it.
To be clear, the bluetooth headphones are probably what you're talking about, since most phones don't have headphone jacks. Once you enable the bluetooth function, then you can hook it up to your car as well. That provides the hands-free function that would allow you to talk on the phone through the car's audio system. Some states have laws that require drivers to use this function.
When I use my smartphone to listen to audio content, I connect the phone to my powered speakers.
Don’t forget WEPN-FM at 98.7. NYC now has three spoken word full market commercial stations on the FM dial - 92.3, 98.7, and 101.9. Rather surprising for a market that’s limited with available commercial frequencies, as I think the next biggest markets with that many talk/news stations on FM are San Francisco and Dallas, and they have more frequencies so it’s not as big of a loss for music fans.
However, it makes sense. This is likely the future of the FM dial to stay viable. NYC has lost 3 commercial music stations over the last decade (not counting PLJ as XBK went to commercial), but there doesn’t seem to be anything else that can work in the market. 4 if you want to count 92.7, but their signal is not that much of a factor. Another CHR was tried, country was tried, Alt was tried multiple times. It’s just a unique market with very well established stations and any newcomer is going to struggle. It even took 102.7 (as Fresh, then NEW) forever to catch on, and PLJ’s death helped that.
I do wonder how Jack FM would have done with time had it not replaced CBS-FM and all of the chaos that ensued. It could have been fine tuned to the market. Sucks that NYC can’t have the variety Chicago, LA, Dallas, or even San Francisco have, but there are multiple factors in the market that make any additional music station very difficult to get off the ground. If 92.3, 95.5, 98.7, and 101.9 were still commercial music stations, I doubt they would be doing well with any format or the formats they flipped from. 92.3 and 101.9 were a mess in their final years as music stations, and PLJ had been faltering for a while I’m not sure about WRKS, but Emmis wanted out.
Actually, Jack in NYC was doing much better in the sales demos than the oldies format had been doing in its final years. He was only told to "hit the road, Jack" and the format changed to Classic Hits because of what CBS management saw was happening with Classic Hits in Philadelphia in the early tests of the PPM in that same era. CBS was afraid that a competitor would take the Classic Hits format in NYC before the PPM was rolled out in 2008-2009, so they decided to pre-empt that possibility.
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CHR and Hot AC would that be the remaining music on commercial stations.
Classic rock is still viable. In New York City, you also have the two main urban formats (Urban AC and Hip-Hop) and Spanish-language contemporary music, which covers everything with a beat other than EDM and disco, which are too niche and too old. In any other market besides New York and, naturally, Puerto Rico, country performs well enough with advertisers to survive. All these musical genres have consensus among listeners. It's only contemporary rock that's in its own peculiar death rattle.
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And plus most of our favorite 90s Alternative bands like RHCP, Green Day, and Nirvana can be heard on Q104.3 anyway
San Francisco is often compared to NYC as it doesn’t have its own country station and hasn’t for a while, although the new KBAY from San Jose provides secondary coverage to the market that NYC doesn’t have.
If a station is in San Jose, it is "home" to the San Francisco radio market. San Jose, like Oakland or San Francisco or Fremont or Santa Rosa are all part of the San Francisco market. KBAY has a 60 dbu all the way up next to Daly City and Alameda.
On the other hand, Puerto Rico's 30+ year classic rock station, WCAD, sold a couple of years back to become K-Love as rock was, year after year, disappearing as a viable format.
And although WNYC and WBAI are noncommercial stations they take up two more NYC full market signals in the commercial portion of the FM band with mainly spoken word formats, so that makes five altogether.
I think most people here have pointed out of the obvious options. For me, after my local rock and Alternative stations went away, I started to cumulating playlists from other markets, SiriusXM channels, Music Choice playlists from people who have cable (I subscribe to Dish, so I have SiriusXM as my music channel source), and I would listen to podcasts who at times would recommend a band or an artist. I kept these as quick notes on my phone's notes app, then would got to YouTube and search the song.
The problem with that method was I didn't have unlimited data back then. When my wife and I updated our phones a couple months ago, we upgraded our plan to unlimited data. Now that I sumbribe to SiriusXM, it's an outdated method. But, I found it best to find the song on YouTube, and if I liked the band, song, or album to the point of being inclined to do so, I would buy it on iTunes. For an iPhone user, that's quick and simple. I'm on Andorid and Mac user, so out of all the processes (phone type and desktop OS that one would use), that takes the longest. It still gave me greater control.
The problem with that method was I didn't have unlimited data back then. When my wife and I updated our phones a couple months ago, we upgraded our plan to unlimited data. Now that I sumbribe to SiriusXM, it's an outdated method. But, I found it best to find the song on YouTube, and if I liked the band, song, or album to the point of being inclined to do so, I would buy it on iTunes. For an iPhone user, that's quick and simple. I'm on Andorid and Mac user, so out of all the processes (phone type and desktop OS that one would use), that takes the longest. It still gave me greater control.
There are 20 FM stations between 92 and 108 that can be picked up in Lower Manhattan, excluding the translator on 104.7. However, depending on where a listener lives, they can pick up more stations.
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To be frank, WCAD was all over the place. It didn't know if it was classic rock, active rock, hell, it even played some rock nacional.
I have to wonder what would have happened with such a station if they had the resources of a good programmer.
Bluetooth speakers are really good now.
Wait, you are hearing other phones when you are streaming through your phone?
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