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WIIN 780 on the air

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flytrap

Currently simulcasting Y 101 probally temorary, they ususally do that whenever they have their annual format change. I thought WIIN was gone forever. Actually sounds kinda cool to hear CHR on AM again.
 
They had to get it back on the air before June according to the STA they filed last year. They may continue the simulcast or they may shut it down again and refile the silent STA again.

RFB
 
Can't imagine what one could do with this 780 facility. WBBM 780 Chicago is one of the old-line, formerly Class 1-A clear channel stations, and it would be virtually impossible for WIIN to operate past sunset - with miniscule power non-DA, or highly directional. As I recall, stations like WBBM are protected out to 750 air miles, which I imagine would preclude WIIN being anything other than a sunup-to-sundown daytimer.

Anyone else have an idea what you could do with a daytime AM in today's environment? You won't show up in the ratings playing Druid Madrigals.
 
An on-line calculator says Ridgeland to Chicago is 666 miles, so if the 750 mile rule still prevails, WIIN will forever "run down at sundown" as we used to say about a competitor.
 
Seem to remember there was a 720 AM daytimer in another Jackson suburb, now silent. It had the same problem, with WGN 720 Chicago ... on that freq, it was forever a daytimer. And 1120 WTWZ, Clinton, on same freq as KMOX 1120 St Louis, another 1-A station, was/is also trapped in the day-only mode.
 
I've been out of radio 18 years, so not up to date on current FCC policy. But not so many years ago the FCC said it would no longer grant CPs, nor license, daytime-only facilities. Is that still the case, and if so, once the 780, or 720, licenses are allowed to expire, they can never be revived?
 
720 was WWDF - licensed to Richland. Transmitter and studio were in Flowood. It was a 5kw daytimer with pretty good coverage, but it had the misfortune of being owned by Bishop Willis. It went away several years ago.
 
As far as I know (and you know, J Alex, that ain't much) they don't permit new daytime only operations…

But however comma, I just came across a CP the other day for a station, but with no nighttime operation. And Radio-Locator seems to list it that way, too.

That station is WPNN, Pensacola. It currently operates 1 kW days from a tower site right in P'cola, with a night site shared with WEBY south of Milton. Both day and night are non-directional. The CP has it upgrading to 3 kW days from the WEBY site, using all three towers there. But there is no accompanying nighttime CP to go with it. So I dunno. ???

Maybe the right thing to do with some of these day only operations is to just suck it up and turn in the license. AM is struggling enough as it is, no nighttime authorization only hampers things even more.
 
I don't get why the WBBMs and KMOXs of the world have to be protected. As much as I respect those stations and the history behind them, they have no interest in serving Jackson or any other community in which stations have to go off the air at night to protect them.
 
780 has a good signal when everything is working properly. Some of the past formats I liked. Especially Blues 780 They had songs you never hear anymore. the only problem was they had distorted audio and they never changed the playlist. It was just basically an Ipod with the same songs playing over and over. (but thats what nearly every station is nowadays) I even like the "Gods Country" format they had about a year ago. Its a shame someone couldn't do something with it. Terry Wood has been running his bluegrass daytime station on 1120 for years, why not 780? Will they grant low power translators for daytime only stations to run at night?

Speaking of WWDF 720 That station was awful. Had a killer signal but they let a bad hum get into the audio that eventually got so bad you could not understand anyone. Sounded like an old tube radio with a bad filter capacitor. It was daytime only, but they would leave the transmitter on all night, completly blocking WGN Chicago with the hum. I'm surprise WGN didn't notify the FCC if they had know. 5000 watts at night can go a long way at night.
 
flytrap said:
Speaking of WWDF 720 That station was awful. Had a killer signal but they let a bad hum get into the audio that eventually got so bad you could not understand anyone. Sounded like an old tube radio with a bad filter capacitor. It was daytime only, but they would leave the transmitter on all night, completly blocking WGN Chicago with the hum. I'm surprise WGN didn't notify the FCC if they had know. 5000 watts at night can go a long way at night.
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WWDF was owned by Willis Broadcasting. If you know anything about them, you'll know why WWDF (and several others) ended up off the air, including the old WJXN-AM.

RFB
 
The hum you were talking about on 720 AM sounds like WSJC in Magee. I remember how LOUD they were with that 50 KW signal back in the 80's. They were running an AM Optimod. I don't know what they are running now but it's BAD! As for daytimers, WJNT runs their 500 watt FM at night to make up for their lack of power. WJNT is 50 KW non directional day and 500 watts directional at night!! To top that, their night pattern doesn't cover most of the Jackson metro. I don't know how they did the FM signal at night but good for them. That reminds me WSJC is also 50 KW day and 500 watts directional at night.
 
WJNT barely makes it to the Walmart in Pearl at night. And the Walmart is IN Pearl. I've never thought the daytime signal was all that great either. 50,000 watts should get out better than WJNT. Must be the terrain.
 
I've been gone from Jackson for 25 years, but seem to recall that WJNT towers are not very tall because of proximity to airport. Am I correct on that? That may have something to do with what is perceived as lack of daytime coverage. As for night, it's highly directional. WHAM 1180 Rochester NY is one of the old-line 1-A clear-channel stations, and the null toward them (generally NE) is very deep. This started out as a 1 kw daytimer, WKKE (Kicker) on 1190. When they first moved to 1180 to get night operation and more day power, the original DA-N was really bad - couldn't even listen to it on Lakeland Drive (circa 1980). Apparently the pattern got modified as a year later the signal was better in NE Jackson, tho not great. By then it was running Music of Your Life, with Bob Rall as part owner and GM.
 
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