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atlantaboy said:
acheron82 said:
Yes, I believe Radio 105.7 is alternative and not Modern AC. Just like Q100 is not country for playing Rascal Flats.
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Good comparison ::)

About 2/3 of the songs Radio 105.7 plays have charted on Hot AC - 2/3 of the songs Q100 plays have not charted on Country

Here's a sample hour from 105.7...
Green Day/Oh Love
Mumford & Sons/I Will Wait
Dave Matthews Band/What Would You Say
Imagine Dragons/Radioactive
Thirty Seconds To Mars/Up In The Air
Ataris/The Boys Of Summer
Muse/Madness
Goo Goo Dolls/Slide
The Naked And Famous/Young Blood
Franz Ferdinand/Take Me Out
Mumford & Sons/I Will Wait

It still might evolve into straight Alternative - but not for the reasons you mentioned
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The thing is that all of those songs - except maybe "Slide" nowadays - are played on straight alternative stations as well. Only difference is some newer / breaking stuff and most likely some grunge.
 
Slide is also played on alternative during retro shows, etc. St. Louis played it on the Point just yesterday during their "Way Back at 5" show.

Also- The Gentlemen that introduced me to WEQX will be receiving flowers from me if I had the address! I LOVE IT! Sounds really good. Keeps you with some familiar tracks while breaking the new stuff.

They just played a brand new single from Depeche Mode so they are playing Heaven and this new track while other alternative stations has not even touched the new Depeche Mode. I hardly think an old 80s new wave band that has come back for more is adventurous.
 
Loved hearing Bob Marley on there this morning, cranked it up.
I wouldn't be mad if they dropped the spins on Linkin Park's "Burn It Down" and Neon Tress "Everybody Talks". Those are immediate station changes for me just because they've been played to death.
 
acheron82 said:
They just played a brand new single from Depeche Mode so they are playing Heaven and this new track while other alternative stations has not even touched the new Depeche Mode. I hardly think an old 80s new wave band that has come back for more is adventurous.
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This has been a gripe of mine with modern radio for a while, though on other formats. It kills me that bands that were huge years ago and would get airplay Ina heartbeat when new material came out are now literally ignored. Sure, there may be any announcement or a mention on the radio that this band is releasing a new album...but that's all you hear.
 
awp69 said:
atlantaboy said:
acheron82 said:
Yes, I believe Radio 105.7 is alternative and not Modern AC. Just like Q100 is not country for playing Rascal Flats.
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Good comparison ::)

About 2/3 of the songs Radio 105.7 plays have charted on Hot AC - 2/3 of the songs Q100 plays have not charted on Country

Here's a sample hour from 105.7...
Green Day/Oh Love
Mumford & Sons/I Will Wait
Dave Matthews Band/What Would You Say
Imagine Dragons/Radioactive
Thirty Seconds To Mars/Up In The Air
Ataris/The Boys Of Summer
Muse/Madness
Goo Goo Dolls/Slide
The Naked And Famous/Young Blood
Franz Ferdinand/Take Me Out
Mumford & Sons/I Will Wait

It still might evolve into straight Alternative - but not for the reasons you mentioned
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The thing is that all of those songs - except maybe "Slide" nowadays - are played on straight alternative stations as well. Only difference is some newer / breaking stuff and most likely some grunge.
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Yeah, when I looked up other Clear Channel stations on yes.com, most would sporadically throw in Rage Against The Machine, Rise Against, Beastie Boys, Alice In Chains, harder Linkin Park songs, etc.

But I think the biggest difference is the imaging - 105.7 is clearly adult-oriented, at least at this point - and I think a lot of that probably has to do with their signal coverage, and the fact that Dave killed out 99X when it was on a full signal
 
atlantaboy said:
Here's a sample hour from 105.7...
Green Day/Oh Love
Mumford & Sons/I Will Wait
Dave Matthews Band/What Would You Say
Imagine Dragons/Radioactive
Thirty Seconds To Mars/Up In The Air
Ataris/The Boys Of Summer
Muse/Madness
Goo Goo Dolls/Slide
The Naked And Famous/Young Blood
Franz Ferdinand/Take Me Out
Mumford & Sons/I Will Wait

It still might evolve into straight Alternative - but not for the reasons you mentioned
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If you are saying that these songs are Hot A/C songs, you are right. However, they all got their start in Alternative. So, technically, these bands are owned by Alternative. I can remember a time where DMB was strictly Alternative, and I would argue they still are Alternative/AAA. Have you heard Trippin' Billies at Hot A/C? I've heard of cases where a popular government run non-comm Alternative station/network (Triple J) here in Australia started playing a band/track some months before a commercial station got to it. Once commercial radio latched on, the band would be practically dumped from Triple J. I find this rather odd that you have to classify everything.
 
Lee Anderson said:
atlantaboy said:
Here's a sample hour from 105.7...
Green Day/Oh Love
Mumford & Sons/I Will Wait
Dave Matthews Band/What Would You Say
Imagine Dragons/Radioactive
Thirty Seconds To Mars/Up In The Air
Ataris/The Boys Of Summer
Muse/Madness
Goo Goo Dolls/Slide
The Naked And Famous/Young Blood
Franz Ferdinand/Take Me Out
Mumford & Sons/I Will Wait

It still might evolve into straight Alternative - but not for the reasons you mentioned
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If you are saying that these songs are Hot A/C songs, you are right. However, they all got their start in Alternative. So, technically, these bands are owned by Alternative.
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Can you think of a popular Hot AC band that didn't get its start at Alternative?

EDIT: The Script - but I think that's about it...
 
atlantaboy said:
Can you think of a popular Hot AC band that didn't get its start at Alternative?
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Well, if you get technical about it, a lot of Hot AC stations play Katy Perry, Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Swift, Maroon 5 etc. They mix pop hits in with the alternative crossovers. If they aren't playing the pop songs, then they'd probably be considered Adult Alternative and not Hot AC.

Not arguing that a lot of the songs you mentioned didn't cross over to Hot AC ....just that that format plays more than just alt crossovers.
 
awp69 said:
atlantaboy said:
Can you think of a popular Hot AC band that didn't get its start at Alternative?
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Well, if you get technical about it, a lot of Hot AC stations play Katy Perry, Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Swift, Maroon 5 etc. They mix pop hits in with the alternative crossovers. If they aren't playing the pop songs, then they'd probably be considered Adult Alternative and not Hot AC.
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I think that was a decision that was made in the industry, though, to move stations like KUCD to the Alternative rather than the Hot AC panel because of the lack of pop tracks

The reason I brought the whole thing up, though, was because someone posted that 105.7 wasn't cutting-edge like CD 102.5, and that the Alternative format was supposed to be cutting-edge

This is why I'd classify stations like 105.7 as Modern AC, or Alternative Hot AC I guess - and the one thing I'm sure of is the target demo isn't 18-34
 
Of all the track that cross over, you would have to say that quite a few (especially in earlier times) have been remixed or pitched to suite a more mainstream (female) audience. So with that in mind, you could effectively have two very different versions of a song playing to two very different audiences. I still remember (country artist) Lonestar had five different versions of their hit Amazing, to go across 4 different formats. Some worked some didn't...
 
Wildstyle Kdm said:
atlantaboy said:
Can you think of a popular Hot AC band that didn't get its start at Alternative?

EDIT: The Script - but I think that's about it...
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Ace of Base ;D
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Air Supply
 
Going back to our earlier posts regarding alternative crossover to CHR, I'm starting to think that with Rhythmic on the downslide that CHR is getting desparate for product. Not sure if it's on other CHR's but KISS 95.1 in Charlotte played Fall Out Boy's "My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark". IMO that song is a stretch even for Altenative. It honestly sounds like a throwback to Kiss style metal (come to think of it, the station playing it was KISS).

Just thought that was kind of interesting.
 
^Not sure what you mean - it's #15 on ITunes, #13 on Alternative, and #21 on CHR

Not sure if you were saying the song was out of format, or not popular, but it's selling really well, so I wouldn't say that anyone is playing it out of desperation...
 
atlantaboy said:
^Not sure what you mean - it's #15 on ITunes, #13 on Alternative, and #21 on CHR

Not sure if you were saying the song was out of format, or not popular, but it's selling really well, so I wouldn't say that anyone is playing it out of desperation...
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Just saying I don't know if it would have been on CHR a few years ago. it's gaining popularity because it is on both Alternative and CHR. It's grown on me a little but I was even a little dismayed when it came out because to me it sounded like mainstream 80s metal. Fall Out Boy is an alt band. This song just doesn't sound like it. But that's just my opinion.
 
qxzchamp said:
Wildstyle Kdm said:
atlantaboy said:
Can you think of a popular Hot AC band that didn't get its start at Alternative?

EDIT: The Script - but I think that's about it...
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Ace of Base ;D
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Ace of Base actually did get its start at alternative radio. All That She Wants peaked at #17 in October of 1993.

Here is that chart.
http://popradiotop20.com/MR-1993-10-08.htm
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Lol that's awesome ;D I guess my theory holds up then... (I looked up Maroon 5, and they actually charted on Alternative with their first hit also)
 
I can see Maroon 5 charting kinda with their first hits/album. I've said it before, but (IMO) they've gone downhill, but the charts say otherwise, so I'm obviously in the minority.
 
carolinaradio said:
I can see Maroon 5 charting kinda with their first hits/album. I've said it before, but (IMO) they've gone downhill, but the charts say otherwise, so I'm obviously in the minority.
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Kind of the way I feel about Fall Out Boy right now. I liked their early stuff. Not sure about the rest of their new album, but this first single is trash IMO. But I too must be in the minority.
 
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