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Will there be Christmas this year on the radio.

The hit oldies by Earth, Wind & Fire, the Bee Gees, Abba, Motown hits, etc... are in rotation on Greater Media's longtime successful cash cow WMJX, mixed in with the current female-leaning AC. I'm guessing that they want WROR to skew more male with rock classic hits, and not to play those more rhythmic pop oldies included on WMJX, so that WROR won't possibly erode WMJX's numbers at all (especially with their female-leaning demo).

WROR has been throwing the former WODS listeners a weekly bone with a couple of soul songs per hour on "Motown Mondays" since WODS flipped to "Amp", but it doesn't seem that WROR wants to risk any crossover music competing with their own WMJX any more often than one day a week.

CTListener said:
jlehmann said:
jlehmann said:
Here's my theory on why WROR has waited so long to flip to Christmas. It just doesn't fit very closely with their format anymore. We all thought when WODS went away, ROR would start leaning more towards the pop side of classic hits. That has not happened, in fact they've gone further the other way! When WODS was around, they had been playing the occasional Earth Wind & Fire, Bee Gees, Abba, etc song. Now these songs are hardly ever played, if at all. The closest they seem to get to pop these days seems to be Stevie Wonder.

To further back this theory up, I just heard them play Black Crows - Hard To Handle. Last night I heard U2 - Beautiful day! What are they thinking??

Looks like they're afraid of sounding too "old" with '60s and '70s pop and are positioning themselves as a lighter, more relevant to younger listeners version of WZLX.
 
Wow, I feel bad for the people who are psyched they didn't flip. It's the Christmas season, it's the time to listen to the music and listen to the words and their meanings, not the time to say "Woohoo! those awful songs aren't on!"
 
BearFur said:
Wow, I feel bad for the people who are psyched they didn't flip. It's the Christmas season, it's the time to listen to the music and listen to the words and their meanings, not the time to say "Woohoo! those awful songs aren't on!"

Most of the songs are about snow, cold weather, Santa, snuggling by the fire, toys, etc. If they were actually about the religious holiday of Christmas, you might have a point, but really, who needs a full month of "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" and "Winter Wonderland"?
 
CTListener said:
BearFur said:
Wow, I feel bad for the people who are psyched they didn't flip. It's the Christmas season, it's the time to listen to the music and listen to the words and their meanings, not the time to say "Woohoo! those awful songs aren't on!"

Most of the songs are about snow, cold weather, Santa, snuggling by the fire, toys, etc. If they were actually about the religious holiday of Christmas, you might have a point, but really, who needs a full month of "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" and "Winter Wonderland"?

If that was his concern, he'd likely know that it isn't even Advent yet, much less Christmas.
Though I'm not holding my breath waiting for any stations to flip to a format of Advent hymns.
 
The next key date to watch is December 6th. That's the beginning of the "Holiday 2012" PPM ratings period which runs to January 2nd. Under PPM, there are thirteen ratings periods a year, each four weeks in length (52 weeks).....the twelve months, plus the "holiday" period. Typically, all-Christmas formats bring a station's ratings down in November, then slowly build through December. If anyone is going to do it this year, it will be around that date, so that the "December" ratings period is all regular format, and the "Holiday" period is the "holiday" format.
 
I thought I'd add something to this whole thing that I don't think has been brought up yet.

Think of WSRS. I know it's a Worcester station, but about 10 years ago, it used to get fairly significant listenership in my area (Natick, MA). I would often hear it played in local businesses, and a lot of people had it programmed into their car presets. I will admit that when I was younger, I listened to WSRS a lot more than I listened to Magic. I think it was mainly because WSRS always had more of a small town feel to it, and it seemed more like a regular AC station than Magic, and maybe it still is. They didn't go all Christmas then, but I remember Magic used to be real heavy on oldies from the 60s and 70s. But from what I hear, I don't think WSRS has been doing very well in ratings, at least not in my area. I wonder why.
 
ssetta said:
But from what I hear, I don't think WSRS has been doing very well in ratings, at least not in my area. I wonder why.

I thought they had the number one morning show in Worcester for a long time, maybe they still do, I'm not sure. But they dropped Jackie Brush from the morning show several months back and Jackie had been there, I THINK, for a good 10 years (a long time anyway). Then, Greg Byrne went solo for a few weeks and then Heidi West came along as his new partner. Jackie and Greg were very popular as a morning team, much moreso I'd say than Jen Carter and Steve Donavon on WXLO. Nothing else at WSRS has changed. Same music which I listen to occasionally. Nancy Hall and Tom Holt still do mid mornings and afternoons and Delilah at night. So the biggest change is the morning show and they probably got some backlash for that. Having said all that, I didn't listen to Jackie and Greg, I don't listen to Greg and Heidi and I just can't stand Jen and Steve.
 
WMC2006 said:
Nancy Hall and Tom Holt still do mid mornings and afternoons and Delilah at night. So the biggest change is the morning show and they probably got some backlash for that. Having said all that, I didn't listen to Jackie and Greg, I don't listen to Greg and Heidi and I just can't stand Jen and Steve.

According to their website, "Jana" is on middays, who I believe is based out of CC Orlando. I believe this is the generic "premium choice" programming, like what runs on Kiss 108 after 10, everything other than mornings on B101, nights/weekends on 93.3, etc. Not sure exactly when SRS went premium choice, but I believe it runs on the weekends too.
 
I thought sure I heard them mention Nancy Hall a few days ago. I could be wrong. ??? ::)
 
WMC2006 said:
I thought sure I heard them mention Nancy Hall a few days ago. I could be wrong. ??? ::)

Looks like you're mixing up WSRS and WXLO. Nancy Hall is listed on XLO's website doing nights. I believe she's VTed from Q105/New London.
 
WXLO used to get significant listenership in my area too, but I think that very well could have changed once WBMX moved to 104.1, right next to it on the dial. I'm surprised nobody at either station thought that would be an issue.
 
Yes, I AM mixing up WXLO and WSRS. Stupid me! ::)

However, I've still never heard this "Jana" person who is listed after Greg and Heidi on WSRS. Probably because I'm not usually listening to WSRS at all, certainly not at that time of day. Oh well, forget I mentioned all of this. ;D
 
Jana seems to be part of Clear Channel's "Premium Choice." She's mostly heard on medium-sized and small market AC stations.
 
Boston has an analog radio station going all-Christmas this year after all.

It's Soft AC-formatted WMJX-106.7, which took the plunge at 3:02 P.m. EST today (December 5th).

I'm not surprised it's "Magic 106.7": In most cities, it's the soft AC station that goes all-Christmas (the demographics of soft AC are perhaps most compatible with those of all-Christmas stations). In fact, in recent years, WMJX was one of the few major-market soft or mainstream AC's that didn't go all-Christmas (Until this afternoon, WMJX and Atlanta's WSB-98.5 were the only major-market soft or mainstream AC's I am aware of that hadn't flipped to all-Christmas this year).

I am surprised WMJX took this long. The only reason I think it happened this late was that WMJX parent Greater Media originally decided not to flip any of it's Boston stations to all-Christmas this year but had a change of heart.

Next year, if WMJX does it again, they won't wait until December 5th. My guess is that on December 5th of 2013, "Magic" will likely have been all-Christmas for several weeks, perhaps even 35 days!
 
Joseph_Gallant said:
Boston has an analog radio station going all-Christmas this year after all.

It's Soft AC-formatted WMJX-106.7, which took the plunge at 3:02 P.m. EST today (December 5th).

I'm not surprised it's "Magic 106.7": In most cities, it's the soft AC station that goes all-Christmas (the demographics of soft AC are perhaps most compatible with those of all-Christmas stations). In fact, in recent years, WMJX was one of the few major-market soft or mainstream AC's that didn't go all-Christmas (Until this afternoon, WMJX and Atlanta's WSB-98.5 were the only major-market soft or mainstream AC's I am aware of that hadn't flipped to all-Christmas this year).

I am surprised WMJX took this long. The only reason I think it happened this late was that WMJX parent Greater Media originally decided not to flip any of it's Boston stations to all-Christmas this year but had a change of heart.

Next year, if WMJX does it again, they won't wait until December 5th. My guess is that on December 5th of 2013, "Magic" will likely have been all-Christmas for several weeks, perhaps even 35 days!

There is no way WMJX can still be called a soft AC station. There are very few soft ACs left, WFEZ Miami and WDUV Tampa are two.
 
I called it! Not the station, but the date! Thank you! You're all too kind.......

fmradio1 said:
The next key date to watch is December 6th. That's the beginning of the "Holiday 2012" PPM ratings period which runs to January 2nd. Under PPM, there are thirteen ratings periods a year, each four weeks in length (52 weeks).....the twelve months, plus the "holiday" period. Typically, all-Christmas formats bring a station's ratings down in November, then slowly build through December. If anyone is going to do it this year, it will be around that date, so that the "December" ratings period is all regular format, and the "Holiday" period is the "holiday" format.
 
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