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WKRD 101.7 SOLD

BobOnTheJob said:
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
richstrunck said:
Doesnt WIKI in Carrolton call itself "Froggy" as well,
Nope, but WKID 95.3 across the river in Vevay,IN does.

WIKI 95.3

WKID 95.9

Too many K' ans I's too close to each other. I know there were some diary issues in the past.
THat's pretty sad on my part as I was the WIKI engineer for about 10 years!

Were you before or after the move from 100.1 to 95.3?
 
Called 790 today, spoke with Matt Allen. Asked if new fm signal coming our way. He said he knew of no plans. Told him it was a shame since they have, in my opinion, put a great lineup on the air and the signal is junk on the jefferson/Bullitt/Spencer line. And this was at 7:30 am. What a waste.....
 
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
richstrunck said:
Doesnt WIKI in Carrolton call itself "Froggy" as well,
Nope, but WKID 95.3 across the river in Vevay,IN does.

WIKI 95.3

WKID 95.9

Too many K' ans I's too close to each other. I know there were some diary issues in the past.
THat's pretty sad on my part as I was the WIKI engineer for about 10 years!

Were you before or after the move from 100.1 to 95.3?
Late 90's>Late 2000's. Long after the move from 100.1.
 
greg.hahn said:
BIGradio said:
Called 790 today, spoke with Matt Allen.

Why would they tell Matt Allen?

Dude, just saying...he was the one answering the phone and possibly I still believe (or make-believe would be better) that radio may, just may, have a little bit of old-fashioned customer service/"give the public what they like because you are here to serve the public" attitude and listen to the concerns of a dedicated listener. I was just sharing what I was told and unlike others that post on boards, I was quoting my source so-to-speak. Hell, I wouldn't know Matt Allen from anyone on the street, really don't care to either, but if he is the frontline of the station from 6-10am because he answers the phone, then maybe he might know something to tell people. Surely they (WKRD) wouldnt think that people wouldn't notice the change . . .

The bottom dollar in radio = unhappy listeners. I bet UofL, some advisers, the folks that brag about producing "The Early Birds" (Bisig?) love the fact that if you are driving behind the Kaden Towers, under more that 2 powerlines, or trying to listen in the evenings/early mornings, their messages/programs is getting to no one.....
 
BIGradio said:
Dude, just saying...he was the one answering the phone and possibly I still believe (or make-believe would be better) that radio may, just may, have a little bit of old-fashioned customer service/"give the public what they like because you are here to serve the public" attitude and listen to the concerns of a dedicated listener. I was just sharing what I was told and unlike others that post on boards, I was quoting my source so-to-speak. Hell, I wouldn't know Matt Allen from anyone on the street, really don't care to either, but if he is the frontline of the station from 6-10am because he answers the phone, then maybe he might know something to tell people. Surely they (WKRD) wouldnt think that people wouldn't notice the change . . .

The reality of radio is this: If they have info they want you to know, they will say it on the radio. (That's called "Promotion")

If they aren't saying it on the radio, it's a secret, and they aren't going to tell you if you call them on the phone.

They often don't tell the air staff about changes like that, especially when it's a SECRET. (Telling sales people would be even worse.) And the people who know, aren't talking until they are ready for you to know...at which time they will promote the hell out of it.

So if Matt Allen was trusted with this info and he enjoys being trusted like that, he's not going to blab it to a listener calling on the phone. The stock line is, "I know of no plans."


The bottom dollar in radio = unhappy listeners. I bet UofL, some advisers, the folks that brag about producing "The Early Birds" (Bisig?) love the fact that if you are driving behind the Kaden Towers, under more that 2 powerlines, or trying to listen in the evenings/early mornings, their messages/programs is getting to no one.....


Dude. Do you park your car under the power lines? Because if you're moving, it only drops out a second. Welcome to AM radio. It did the same thing when 790 was the number one radio station in Louisville. (And maybe the USA)

At night and early mornings, they cover most of Jefferson county with a listenable signal:

WKRD Nighttime Coverage Map

They cover MOST of the population center with that signal just fine, including the area around Kaden Tower. (Especially there... that's right in their major lobe and only a few miles from their site.)

If you can't cover Bullitt County... you can't cover Bullitt County. That's not the same as "not getting to no one."

I'm pretty sure the folks at Clear Channel realize they lost something when they lost the FM. If it makes financial sense, you can bet they will show up on another FM. If not, they won't.
 
BobOnTheJob said:
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
richstrunck said:
Doesnt WIKI in Carrolton call itself "Froggy" as well,
Nope, but WKID 95.3 across the river in Vevay,IN does.

WIKI 95.3

WKID 95.9

Too many K' ans I's too close to each other. I know there were some diary issues in the past.
THat's pretty sad on my part as I was the WIKI engineer for about 10 years!

Were you before or after the move from 100.1 to 95.3?
Late 90's>Late 2000's. Long after the move from 100.1.

I guess you followed Pete. I assume the station have already move the studios to Madison and George Freeman had sold WIKI.
 
greg.hahn said:
BIGradio said:
Dude, just saying...he was the one answering the phone and possibly I still believe (or make-believe would be better) that radio may, just may, have a little bit of old-fashioned customer service/"give the public what they like because you are here to serve the public" attitude and listen to the concerns of a dedicated listener. I was just sharing what I was told and unlike others that post on boards, I was quoting my source so-to-speak. Hell, I wouldn't know Matt Allen from anyone on the street, really don't care to either, but if he is the frontline of the station from 6-10am because he answers the phone, then maybe he might know something to tell people. Surely they (WKRD) wouldnt think that people wouldn't notice the change . . .

The reality of radio is this: If they have info they want you to know, they will say it on the radio. (That's called "Promotion")

If they aren't saying it on the radio, it's a secret, and they aren't going to tell you if you call them on the phone.

They often don't tell the air staff about changes like that, especially when it's a SECRET. (Telling sales people would be even worse.) And the people who know, aren't talking until they are ready for you to know...at which time they will promote the hell out of it.

So if Matt Allen was trusted with this info and he enjoys being trusted like that, he's not going to blab it to a listener calling on the phone. The stock line is, "I know of no plans."


The bottom dollar in radio = unhappy listeners. I bet UofL, some advisers, the folks that brag about producing "The Early Birds" (Bisig?) love the fact that if you are driving behind the Kaden Towers, under more that 2 powerlines, or trying to listen in the evenings/early mornings, their messages/programs is getting to no one.....


Dude. Do you park your car under the power lines? Because if you're moving, it only drops out a second. Welcome to AM radio. It did the same thing when 790 was the number one radio station in Louisville. (And maybe the USA)

At night and early mornings, they cover most of Jefferson county with a listenable signal:

WKRD Nighttime Coverage Map

They cover MOST of the population center with that signal just fine, including the area around Kaden Tower. (Especially there... that's right in their major lobe and only a few miles from their site.)

If you can't cover Bullitt County... you can't cover Bullitt County. That's not the same as "not getting to no one."

I'm pretty sure the folks at Clear Channel realize they lost something when they lost the FM. If it makes financial sense, you can bet they will show up on another FM. If not, they won't.

Appreciate your insight. I am no professional, just a big supporter of radio. I am a fan. A fan in their 40's that remembers being with his grandparents in my youth listening to WHAS in the barns and on the tractors and every morning for the farm report. My grandparents used to listen to Metz and Elliott at nights, in the living room.... Forget TV unless it was a Saturday with golden girls or heehaw...lol.

Bottom line, I am a fan that is fascinated by the theater of radio and what it was - serving the public, not just selling them something. Perhaps my outsider view gets the best of me, I give anyone that. And believe me, reading boards like this with posters like yourself, with noted resumes to back it up, provides great insight into the broadcasting world. Thanks for the knowledge from a frustrated radio supporter/fan.....
 
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
richstrunck said:
Doesnt WIKI in Carrolton call itself "Froggy" as well,
Nope, but WKID 95.3 across the river in Vevay,IN does.

WIKI 95.3

WKID 95.9

Too many K' ans I's too close to each other. I know there were some diary issues in the past.
THat's pretty sad on my part as I was the WIKI engineer for about 10 years!

Were you before or after the move from 100.1 to 95.3?
Late 90's>Late 2000's. Long after the move from 100.1.

I guess you followed Pete. I assume the station have already move the studios to Madison and George Freeman had sold WIKI.
I'm not sure who preceeded me but I did see some of Pete's business cards attached to some gear. I was already working with Marty Pieratt when he bought WIKI so I came along for the ride. The studio left downtown & moved to the hilltop and again moved to their second and current hilltop location during my era. Once Marty became uninvolved and WagonWheel took over, WIKI (along with co-owned WSCH Aurora,IN) became an engineering revolving door.
 
BobOnTheJob said:
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
richstrunck said:
Doesnt WIKI in Carrolton call itself "Froggy" as well,
Nope, but WKID 95.3 across the river in Vevay,IN does.

WIKI 95.3

WKID 95.9

Too many K' ans I's too close to each other. I know there were some diary issues in the past.
THat's pretty sad on my part as I was the WIKI engineer for about 10 years!

Were you before or after the move from 100.1 to 95.3?
Late 90's>Late 2000's. Long after the move from 100.1.

I guess you followed Pete. I assume the station have already move the studios to Madison and George Freeman had sold WIKI.
I'm not sure who preceeded me but I did see some of Pete's business cards attached to some gear. I was already working with Marty Pieratt when he bought WIKI so I came along for the ride. The studio left downtown & moved to the hilltop and again moved to their second and current hilltop location during my era. Once Marty became uninvolved and WagonWheel took over, WIKI (along with co-owned WSCH Aurora,IN) became an engineering revolving door.

I worked there when the studios were at the old tower site (Mound Hill) Carrolton. Pete did the switch from 100.1 to 95.3 and put in the stuff (and moved the Transmitter from Mound Hill) at the site you worked at. The tower came from the scraped Nuclear Plant power plant just West of Madison. Did they ever get antenna heaters or radomes. They had some icing issues when I was there.
 
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
secondchoice said:
BobOnTheJob said:
richstrunck said:
Doesnt WIKI in Carrolton call itself "Froggy" as well,
Nope, but WKID 95.3 across the river in Vevay,IN does.

WIKI 95.3

WKID 95.9

Too many K' ans I's too close to each other. I know there were some diary issues in the past.
THat's pretty sad on my part as I was the WIKI engineer for about 10 years!

Were you before or after the move from 100.1 to 95.3?
Late 90's>Late 2000's. Long after the move from 100.1.

I guess you followed Pete. I assume the station have already move the studios to Madison and George Freeman had sold WIKI.
I'm not sure who preceeded me but I did see some of Pete's business cards attached to some gear. I was already working with Marty Pieratt when he bought WIKI so I came along for the ride. The studio left downtown & moved to the hilltop and again moved to their second and current hilltop location during my era. Once Marty became uninvolved and WagonWheel took over, WIKI (along with co-owned WSCH Aurora,IN) became an engineering revolving door.

I worked there when the studios were at the old tower site (Mound Hill) Carrolton. Pete did the switch from 100.1 to 95.3 and put in the stuff (and moved the Transmitter from Mound Hill) at the site you worked at. The tower came from the scraped Nuclear Plant power plant just West of Madison. Did they ever get antenna heaters or radomes. They had some icing issues when I was there.
Apologies to the starter of this thread...it's moved frequencies and call signs, owners and transmitter sites! That's a nice tower, but as of 2 years ago, no radomes or deicers. The old Harris 2.5 transmitter is very forgiving of high VSWR though. When you worked at the old 100.1 site, did you work with a guy who had vision issues and lived at or very near the site? He gave me a tour of the old site in the 80's...his name escapes me. I think he was a ham radio operator.
 
BIGradio said:
Appreciate your insight. I am no professional, just a big supporter of radio. I am a fan. A fan in their 40's that remembers being with his grandparents in my youth listening to WHAS in the barns and on the tractors and every morning for the farm report. My grandparents used to listen to Metz and Elliott at nights, in the living room.... Forget TV unless it was a Saturday with golden girls or heehaw...lol.
Big fan of local radio here too. I even have a autographed picture of Barney Arnold! [People under 40 are saying, "Who??"]

:)
 
I keep trying to hear it here, but with a 50KW blowtorch on 101.5 12 miles from me, I'm not having much luck :(
 
Have they changed the antenna patterns since it was WKRD? The signal was coming in loud and clear at Highlander Point on Hwy. 150 tonight--much better than 'KRD did.
 
I can not find any construction permit. I do miss some CPs sometimes so I could be wrong. Unless they were "messed up" and now "getting legal" there is no "legal" way to change a station's pattern without at least some kind of STA or CP from the FCC. The atmosphere was been "tropo" friendly in GA, AL and MS, the last couple of days for both AM and FM. AM 1000 Chicago and 1010 Canada both stopped scan on my car radio most of the afternoon Thursday. Some of the Atlanta FMs are getting interfered with too. This effect might be more widespread than I though. I bet this weekend's predicted storms will put a stop to the afternoon DXing.
 
secondchoice said:
Unless they were "messed up" and now "getting legal" there is no "legal" way to change a station's pattern without at least some kind of STA or CP from the FCC.
Sure there is and every FM station is doing it whether they want to or not. There is no such thing as an FM antenna that sends a signal out precisely the same in all directions, although expensive panel antennas can come close. The typical FM antenna mounted on a tower has nulls of at least 10db (vertical polarity) in the direction "behind" the antenna. That -10db is distributed into other directions resulting in a boost of typically 2-3db. So taking the antenna and moving it to the most advantageous mounting position can take the signal of a 6000 watt station and raise it to 10000 watts or more in a desired direction while dropping it to 600 watts or less in a less desired direction. One would think that Clear Channel would already have had it properly mounted to maximize coverage toward Louisville. Whether or not the new owners changed it, I can't say. There's nothing shady or illegal about this technique...it's no more unethical than mounting the security light in your back yard so as to illuminate the desired portion of your property.
 
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