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The lack of advertising is the best part of Public Radio. I wish they got more public funding so they didn't have to bang their tin cup so often. That phrase never went over to well when I used to say it while working at GBH.

I really enjoyed listening to J&M today without the constant commercials, promotions, breaks for traffic and news headlines.

A lot has changed at WERS since I was there 25 years ago. They are now looking for a paid professional air talent to co-host the morning show with students. When I was there, if a Freshman was good he or she would get a shift. It helped if you did a semester on the Carrier Current AM WECB but that wasn't a rule. I started on ERS the second semester of my Freshman year. ( I wasn't that good I think the competition at the time was a bit weak) and stayed till graduation.

As Dan Rea would say lets agree to disagree. I don't like taking up space on this board criticizing other posters.We are all here because we love radio.
 
Certainly public TV and radio have made mention of it, and even the longtime Ch 2 sign on
and sign off messages said "We are non-commercial. For the funds that keep us free, we depend entirely on... (various sources). We will always need your help."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMaZnEnFAyM

Yeah for the Taj Mahal studios and messageboard over the Pike...yeah, kidding. And yes it's fun to do my show and for listeners to hear my show without all the ad clutter. We do a donorship at :15,
a PSA at :30, and a promo at :45. "More music!" Yeah, maybe I'm a bit much with my idea of
"I'd rather have them run ads than take tax dollars" and definitely agreed about the begathons.
Sometimes I like to do little digs at such things. I even poked fun at the long ad breaks WODS used to have ("Commercials 103.3" I called it) but then I said, hey, good for them, they're making money and paying the airstaff...I did hear a bit of J&M today and yes, it was nice.

Some of the donorships can sound a bit like ads (minus the call to action or superlatives) and I have heard airchecks of a station in Toronto that was like most non-comms only they got to carry
some spots that sounded an awful lot like ads (things diff. up in Great White North I guess)

Criticizing the views of another poster is fine, that's debate, of course. Personal attacks are not what we want, but good debate and as Clapprood and Whitley used to say, "Disagree without
being disagreeable." And were we to meet in person you'd see I'm not the fire breathing dragon some would think!
I would imagine a station like WERS has much more competition than a WMWM up here,
though we still do fill just about all our slots. But we have room for community members too etc.
 
vmorrison said:
Kuhner can dish it out but her certainly can't take it. I was listening to his 11 o'clock report this morning while driving home from the Cape. He began the program by claiming that the President suffered from several mental health issues and his plan was to drive the country into total socialism and nationalize everything.
I'm getting sick of foreigners like Kuhner and Rupert Murdoch trying to tell us how to run our country.
 
vmorrison said:
The lack of advertising is the best part of Public Radio. I wish they got more public funding so they didn't have to bang their tin cup so often. That phrase never went over to well when I used to say it while working at GBH.

I really enjoyed listening to J&M today without the constant commercials, promotions, breaks for traffic and news headlines.

A lot has changed at WERS since I was there 25 years ago. They are now looking for a paid professional air talent to co-host the morning show with students. When I was there, if a Freshman was good he or she would get a shift. It helped if you did a semester on the Carrier Current AM WECB but that wasn't a rule. I started on ERS the second semester of my Freshman year. ( I wasn't that good I think the competition at the time was a bit weak) and stayed till graduation.

As Dan Rea would say lets agree to disagree. I don't like taking up space on this board criticizing other posters.We are all here because we love radio.

If Public Radio is so great, let it stand on its own! When one is $16 Trillion in debt, one does not waste $$ on Broadcasting (or a ton of other endeavors of which are not germaine to this thread or discussion board)
 
It may seem like a drop in the bucket comp. to the big figure but it's the principle of the thing. And note that despite the distaste the Left has for big corporations, many big companies have _voluntarily_ given to NPR, ranging from Angie's List to Sony to "Fox Broadcasting". Voluntarily.

http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/annualreports/NPRSponsorsDonors08.pdf

Years ago it could have been said that cultural, educational programs were rare on the TV and
radio dials, thus the need for PBS and NPR. Now it's all over the place; TV-wise, many people can
afford cable (and perhaps expanded basic) and there are independent stations (or the sub channels of the PBS outlets, for the cable-less...also carried by cable of course. "GBH Create", "GBH Kids".). As for radio, in his "Berlin Diary" William L. Shirer
mentions at one point working for CBS and covering performances by youth singers in Europe.
CBS...because NPR as we know it didn't exist in the 30s.
 
It may seem like a drop in the bucket comp. to the big figure but it's the principle of the thing.

Well, if it's the principle of the thing, why did you just post….. Yeah, maybe I'm a bit much with my idea of "I'd rather have them run ads than take tax dollars".....?

You supposedly are an advocate of public broadcasting paying its own way, but then say you think that the idea of them running ads is a bit much? How do you think they are going to pay the bills, drill for oil in the 'GBH parking lot?

Either you stand on principle or you don't; you don't apologize for your principles, you state them and defend them if need be. If you can’t state or defend them, don’t bother having them. Your only real principle is “don’t let anything to get in the way of your BFF offensive.” That’s the reason your posts always equivocate to the point of uselessness. You're seemingly afraid you'll inadvertently disagree with someone. You certainly don’t want to let anyone think you’ve ever had an original idea. They might find it offensive, so remember to attribute it to someone else so they won’t look askance at you. “Hey, don’t get mad it me…it wasn’t my idea…it was some guy on Wikipedia who really wrote that…please be my pal…”

And note that despite the distaste the Left has for big corporations, many big companies have _voluntarily_ given to NPR, ranging from Angie's List to Sony to "Fox Broadcasting". Voluntarily. http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/annualreports/NPRSponsorsDonors08.pdfYears ago it could have been said that cultural, educational programs were rare on the TV and radio dials, thus the need for PBS and NPR. Now it's all over the place; TV-wise, many people can blah, blah, blah,,,blah…blah..…..god, just mindless crap. Reads like a Mavis Bacon exercise for ADHD sufferers.

I’m heading for Argentina for three weeks. If I learn the Spanish equivalent of ”on the other hand” I’ll let you know. It will give you a head start if you ever decide to start posting on Hispanic radio boards.

Regards,
TSB
 
TSBench said:
It may seem like a drop in the bucket comp. to the big figure but it's the principle of the thing.

Well, if it's the principle of the thing, why did you just post….. Yeah, maybe I'm a bit much with my idea of "I'd rather have them run ads than take tax dollars".....?

You supposedly are an advocate of public broadcasting paying its own way, but then say you think that the idea of them running ads is a bit much? How do you think they are going to pay the bills, drill for oil in the 'GBH parking lot?

Either you stand on principle or you don't; you don't apologize for your principles, you state them and defend them if need be. If you can’t state or defend them, don’t bother having them. Your only real principle is “don’t let anything to get in the way of your BFF offensive.” That’s the reason your posts always equivocate to the point of uselessness. You're seemingly afraid you'll inadvertently disagree with someone. You certainly don’t want to let anyone think you’ve ever had an original idea. They might find it offensive, so remember to attribute it to someone else so they won’t look askance at you. “Hey, don’t get mad it me…it wasn’t my idea…it was some guy on Wikipedia who really wrote that…please be my pal…”

And note that despite the distaste the Left has for big corporations, many big companies have _voluntarily_ given to NPR, ranging from Angie's List to Sony to "Fox Broadcasting". Voluntarily. http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/annualreports/NPRSponsorsDonors08.pdfYears ago it could have been said that cultural, educational programs were rare on the TV and radio dials, thus the need for PBS and NPR. Now it's all over the place; TV-wise, many people can blah, blah, blah,,,blah…blah..…..god, just mindless crap. Reads like a Mavis Bacon exercise for ADHD sufferers.

I’m heading for Argentina for three weeks. If I learn the Spanish equivalent of ”on the other hand” I’ll let you know. It will give you a head start if you ever decide to start posting on Hispanic radio boards.

Regards,
TSB


Why is it you criticize racoonradio? I'm just confused all i see in his posts is just information at least to me. It seems every time your on and he posts something you laugh and criticize it. This is a fun and informative board not a middle school lunch room!!
 
pariho2013 said:
If Public Radio is so great, let it stand on its own!

Agreed, this is yet another example of wasteful spending.
 
But subsidizing Nascar isn't?

Do you honestly think the NAB is going to allow more channels to air advertising? They'll fight that to the bitter end.

So by turning the NCE band into commercial, you're creating not only more advertising competition but the risk that the valuations of noncomms skyrocket and of course, CC and Cumulus will be first in line to insist that these are now up for grabs to commercial operators.

Which kind of destroys the whole point of the reserved band.

I don't think most of you who want noncomms to be able to sell ads realize what would happen.

By the way, that paltry $1.35 per taxpayer can return $7 in local funds. Which is what I'd call a good ROI.
 
stevensonair said:
But subsidizing Nascar isn't?

Do you honestly think the NAB is going to allow more channels to air advertising? They'll fight that to the bitter end.

So by turning the NCE band into commercial, you're creating not only more advertising competition but the risk that the valuations of noncomms skyrocket and of course, CC and Cumulus will be first in line to insist that these are now up for grabs to commercial operators.

Which kind of destroys the whole point of the reserved band.

I don't think most of you who want noncomms to be able to sell ads realize what would happen.

By the way, that paltry $1.35 per taxpayer can return $7 in local funds. Which is what I'd call a good ROI.

ROI is NOT a good reason on which to base Tax policy (ROI is correct for private business)

No one is saying end the 88-91.9 NCE, just don't have the feds subsidize it...
 
If you remove the subsidy that enables them to raise more money locally, something has to replace it.

And some have suggested that will be allowing advertising on par with commercial stations. Which the commercial stations will resist.
 
Criticize me if you will, I can take it. It may even urge me to post more often! Since 2003 I have done
about 3.6 posts per day and mind you, it's really tough doing that last 0.6 of a post

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It may also be the best part of WRKO

KARS-4-KIDS PSAs, then
 
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