wtf 92.3 NOW!!!

[SmashTim]

As far as the dance and rap comment, I listen to and used to be heavily in to both at the same time. I've recently gone back towards more of a dance direction, but still enjoy reminiscing on certain years of my hip hop lifestyle.

But then again, I've always been into unusual types of stuff and combinations that are out of the norm.

I'm personally into both as well. I am heavily into 90's hip hop such as WU, Mobb Deep, Nas, Biggie, 2pac, etc as well as most types of dance music (with the exception of disco)

 

[TonySantiago]

So yeah, 92.3 could do a classic rhythmic sound with a bunch of 70s/80s disco, funk, rap, and R&B and not sound that different or unfamiliar from a lot of what’s out today on other CHR.

classic rhythmic? So are you suggesting they take their CHR format and mix in a bunch of rhythmic leaning older stuff from disco on up?

Isn't that exactly what KTU is? NOW, needs to fill a hole, not go head-to-head against another established station, especially if they're going to continue to half-a$$ everything they do!

Actually, that is what 'KTU WAS. Also, in regards to going head-to-head, does anyone remember the 'KTU/Mix 102.7 battle? We all know what happened there! 'KTU went rhythmic A/C and Mix became Fresh 102.7. Add to the fact that BOTH stations did poorly.

'KTU dumped the disco and freestyle and is concentrating on current rhythmic and mainstream dance, which works for them! Other than that, we may disagree from time to time Justin but in this case, you called it! I just had to correct the part about what 'KTU is now

 

[JustinCase]

Tony, although I mostly agree on what they are now... I was just trying to point out, someone else does mix older with newer... they still mix current rhythmic chr, with 90's and early 2000's retro regularly... AND they do still throw in an occassional disco/80's/or 90's free style track in what I call the usual "40 minute Michael marker" slots on the clock... where they play a Michael Jackson or other pre-new KTU era song!

but yes, I'll agree the Donna Summer on repeat days that you use to complain about are gone!

 

[andone]

So yeah, 92.3 could do a classic rhythmic sound with a bunch of 70s/80s disco, funk, rap, and R&B and not sound that different or unfamiliar from a lot of what’s out today on other CHR.

classic rhythmic? So are you suggesting they take their CHR format and mix in a bunch of rhythmic leaning older stuff from disco on up?

No. Raise up your sarcasm antennae. I was rhetorically pointing out that with so much of today’s music being sampled or recycled sounds, a CHR could play old rhythmic music and sound “current.” It was in response to B’Don’s comment about how the 92.3 female demo might want to hear Daft Punk-derived music, and I was pointing out that Daft Punk's music is very "derived" itself.

 

[lalumia]

is NOW playing the new Adam Lambert single "If I Had You"? It's a for sure hit, dancey in it's original version, ripe for re mixes

 

[pjc1961]

For Adam Lambert - "If I Had You" - only WJIM-FM Lansing, MI has more plays (72) than Z100 in the 7-Day period from 6/27-7/3/10. The song is not in 923 Now's Top 50 in the same period (if it's on at all, it would be at 6 plays or less).

Station Market Format TW LW Move ovn am mid pm eve Aud
WHTZ-FM New York Top 40 51 26 25 17 1 6 11 16 2.353

 

[Radaioman]

I will admit, I don't listen THAT much to Z-100 or 92.3 Now, but I DO listen. And comparing playlists, there IS a difference.

Here's my take. Z-100 gears their playlist to a more suburban crowd. You will hear MORE of Justin Bieber, Ke$ha, Miley Cyrus, La Roux, Adam Lambert and other artists that cater to that teenage/twenty-something girl living on Long Island, Westchester/Rockland, Northern and Central NJ and Fairfield County, CT versus 92.3 Now.

On 92.3 Now's playlist, you have a MUCH stronger lean on "rhythmic" tracks than you do on Z-100. You will hear MORE of Taio Cruz, Drake, Jay-Z, T.I., Jason DeRulo, Shontelle, Young Money, B.o.B, Black Eyed Peas and other artists that cater to that teenage/twenty-something girl mainly living in the five boroughs of NYC. That is NOT to say that some of what Z-100 is doing doesn't get heard on 92.3 Now and vice-versa. That's just the lean.

However, the disadvantage of 92.3 Now is that since they have a stronger lean on rhythmic tracks, they also have to worry about stations such as Hot 97 and Power 105.1. The three stations basically the same target audience, with Hot and Power both having a rhythmic/hip-hop approach that is much stronger than Now, since it also has to cover some of the artists listed under Z-100 being that it IS A CHR. I also think in a small sense that since Power doesn't drop their music immediately as well, that 92.3 Now may feel "pigeonholed" to leave some of their tracks up that should have been shelved, or at the very least given some sort of recurrent play. Z-100 doesn't have to worry about this since they don't have to worry about Hot or Power all that much (especially on Power, being a "sister station" of Z-100 - Clear Channel). They may COVER aspects of 92.3 Now but with that suburban lean, they don't have to really go deep into "rhythmic" since the suburban crowd isn't as much into it as the city crowd. That's what keeps Z-100 strong.

HOWEVER, after hearing Dennis Ferrer's "Hey Hey" on 92.3 Now, there is ONE aspect that 92.3 Now can cover that Z-100 won't get into (and this is based on the suburban/city demographics of each station)....the dance music aspect.

You still have people that are upset that Pulse 87 and PartyFM are gone on 87.7 and people DO want something dance oriented on terrestrial radio. This is where 92.3 Now COULD gain ratings for the next books. Let me note this for the record before someone twists it......I AM NOT LOOKING FOR 92.3 NOW TO DO A DANCE MUSIC FORMAT! I'll repeat....I AM NOT LOOKING FOR 92.3 NOW TO DO A DANCE MUSIC FORMAT! However, they can lean more dance-friendly (such as K-104 in Poughkeepsie and Z 103.5 in Toronto), along with what they are doing already and in the process gain an audience that Z-100 wouldn't go for, since to a "suburban" ear and the audience they go for Z-100's definition of "dance" leans more familiar and in that sense, keep an older track on such as David Guetta's "Love Is Gone" or Bob Sinclar's "World Hold On". Add TO the fact that Z-100 has to "protect" sister station 'KTU, Z-100 won't put on anything that 'KTU does even though 'KTU's approach with their rhythmic A/C format gears to an older suburban woman (25-54) that has kids, who MAY have gone to the clubs but are now heading out to school sporting events.

92.3 NOW could get higher ratings if they continue to go dance-friendly with the CHR approach...still play the artists that they do, but not as much in order to make some room for the dance adds. NOT SAYING THAT 92.3 NOW MUST BE A DANCE STATION (someone MUST be thinking that I'm thinking this again, which is why I WROTE it again!) but at the very least look into some of the dance approach in there a bit.

It only took you 4 paragraphs to get to the "Dance Music cures cancer" rant and how Pulse's huge audience of 6 would be happy.

 

[d21ofnj]

Excuse me.

Show me where Pulse only had 6 listeners. From what the books said, Pulse had over 900,000 listeners.

I understand you weren't one of those 900,000, but you can't deny the support and respect that station earned from it's fans.

 

[Wildstyle K]

As far as the dance and rap comment, I listen to and used to be heavily in to both at the same time. I've recently gone back towards more of a dance direction, but still enjoy reminiscing on certain years of my hip hop lifestyle.

But then again, I've always been into unusual types of stuff and combinations that are out of the norm.

I'm personally into both as well. I am heavily into 90's hip hop such as WU, Mobb Deep, Nas, Biggie, 2pac, etc as well as most types of dance music (with the exception of disco)

Then listen to KZZP on the weekends, all summer long. Kiss FM is blazin all your "summer weekend party hits". Ok well maybe not Modd Deep, Nas, and Wu, but that's ok because we have KNRJ that plays ALL that. KNRJ IS your home for classic hip hop in Phoenix! Actually, it's pretty much your ONLY place for it almost nonstop 24/7 in the U.S.! KNRJ used to be Energy.

 

[TonySantiago]

Excuse me.

Show me where Pulse only had 6 listeners. From what the books said, Pulse had over 900,000 listeners.

I understand you weren't one of those 900,000, but you can't deny the support and respect that station earned from it's fans.

All Radaioman can do is snark....just leave him be. There are better things to do. He just wants to bash and not bring up points. Some people do that. It's just part of the territory here. Still can't feel the punches from all the years I've taken "crap" from people like him anyway.

 

[Radaioman]

92.3 Now is a trainwreck. You're right, they overplay songs that were played about months ago, don't jump on new songs fast enough, have a short playlist, etc. Also, there's something just lacking about Now FM that I can't really put my finger on.. it just doesn't sound as smooth and polished as z100.. there's just something very bland about it. Not to mention all the DJ's are horrible, aside from Chunky.

Z-100 is more polished? Is it the fact they have no local programming from 6a-2p? I don't consider Elvis Duran and a room full of 20 people talking at once polished. Neither do I think Ryan Seacrest is any better.

After that? Two talents perfect for Albany (JJ and Mo Bounce sound like the same pre-fab jock) and Shelly Wade playing out the string.

As for Chunky? He's the best jock to hit this market for CHR in years.... because he doesn't speak to the Ingram fanboys on here... he speaks to his target... specifically the upper part of the teen demo and the younger part of the 18-34 group.

And if you've seen the numbers in the station's 18-34, you'd realize it.

It's so clear that you work for Now FM. Only a Now FM employee (Or Chunky himself) would think Now sounds goo, that Elvis isn't a local show, would exaggerate the 5 people they have talking into 20, and think Chunky is not only good, but better than Z's jocks and think that Chunky is the reason for the decent ratings at Now. Now's music draws in the demo and they still trail tremendously to the top 18-34 stations. To even compare Elvis' show which is successful in 20-30 markets with Now's "local Programming" of Nick "I can't speak English" and am never in the NY studio is ridiculous. HE isn't local and truthfully, people who listen don't really care about local. Board jockeys do

 

[Radaioman]

Excuse me.

Show me where Pulse only had 6 listeners. From what the books said, Pulse had over 900,000 listeners.

I understand you weren't one of those 900,000, but you can't deny the support and respect that station earned from it's fans.

All Radaioman can do is snark....just leave him be. There are better things to do. He just wants to bash and not bring up points. Some people do that. It's just part of the territory here. Still can't feel the punches from all the years I've taken "crap" from people like him anyway.

Gentlemen..I was exaggerating for the joke of it. Pulse had listeners but you always make it sound like a monster to be reckoned with. If it was truly a viable format, a real station would switch to it and not a TV station/radio station. You just can't admit that you put being a fan ahead of being a programmer. It's like CHR listeners who swear ratings would go up with less repetition of the hits, but the truth is always the opposite

 

[TonySantiago]

Excuse me.

Show me where Pulse only had 6 listeners. From what the books said, Pulse had over 900,000 listeners.

I understand you weren't one of those 900,000, but you can't deny the support and respect that station earned from it's fans.

All Radaioman can do is snark....just leave him be. There are better things to do. He just wants to bash and not bring up points. Some people do that. It's just part of the territory here. Still can't feel the punches from all the years I've taken "crap" from people like him anyway.

Gentlemen..I was exaggerating for the joke of it. Pulse had listeners but you always make it sound like a monster to be reckoned with. If it was truly a viable format, a real station would switch to it and not a TV station/radio station. You just can't admit that you put being a fan ahead of being a programmer. It's like CHR listeners who swear ratings would go up with less repetition of the hits, but the truth is always the opposite

Radaio,

I've gotten so many "punches" over the years so at this point, whatever comes as a joke or for real from one that has been critical I always tend to figure as "oh well, what's the point" which is why I gave d21ofnj the response.

I actually DO "get" radio more than you give me credit for. Radio folks only see the numbers presented in front of them WITHOUT taking variables into consideration. So, and I'm not saying YOU specifically but for the sake of argument....you saw the Pulse 87 numbers at 0.7 and that's what you (and again, not saying YOU but being general here) see in front. Just the numbers. Not seeing the quirks of 87.7, a "TV station", the poor signal.....just the numbers. And for an industry that counts on billings, that's all that counts. NOT the fact that if given a regular signal above 92 with strong coverage, the station would probably be in the Top 5 in the market. You want numbers. Okay. I get that.

Now having said that, I'm just going to "assume" that you may have limited knowledge to no knowledge to what dance music is all about. Maybe you do know more but for the argument, I'll say you know little to none. And that's okay because part of what I try to do here is educate. Not get critical or "snark" on someone that may not know dance.

To that, I'll say this....there is a DIFFERENCE with what dance tracks that radio presents versus what is in the clubs. To that out of those that listen to dance music on the radio, it's fair to say that perhaps less than half of them go out "clubbing". And within THAT, about 70% of those folks would go to a club that has the music FROM the station. So in that sense, whenever Pulse 87 DID have a club event, a lot of the people that turned out were the listeners because of the impact of the station. Being that the station catered to the outer boroughs, that dance "mentality" went to those clubs that played music Pulse 87 had. However, very few of those radio listeners would go out to a club like a Cielo or Pacha because they are mostly unfamiliar with that music and when Pulse touched some of that, it was mainly on Saturday night mix shows. Saying THAT, because of those nuances, a lot of those underground tracks didn't bubble onto regular rotation. And that's okay because the whole premise is that you, as a programmer, want to get maximum results based on knowing who that audience is. And to that, there were more "outer borough/bridge and tunnel" listeners than what I call either "worldly" as well as the "GLBT" crowd (those that went to the underground establishments/or in the case of the latter "circuit events"), or the "soccer mom" (who mainly listen to 'KTU).

Yes, I'm a fan, and proud of it. But I also follow EXTREMELYclose to what radio does or doesn't do, based on what I am doing regarding the coalition. And it's no diss to those that are out there busting their tails programming the music out there; I respect. But no fan would want to go through the extent of trouble that I do, having to painstakingly prove WHY I think dance music as a format can work. I'm not saying that dance music works because "I'm Tony Santiago and I believe in it." It goes back to the whole point...YOU WANT NUMBERS for the basis of financial proof on WHY things can work (or not work).

I may not have a "consulting" firm at my disposal to present written notification of numbers and research based on certain demographics. But I DO bust tail going to many events (club events, radio station concerts, industry events) and just talk to people to see what they like or dislike. That may seem "dirty" to some but that's how I "roll" here. The big trick I have to do this time around is prove how a dance CHR station playing the dance "HITS" (and not sound like an underground club) could get 3.5+ million and not base it on the "literal" numbers on Pulse.

Sorry I gave you 7 paragraphs here. And I was going to leave things alone and just chalk it up as "another one". But in this case, if you "dish it", I'll "defend it"

All good.

 

[Radaioman]

Excuse me.

Show me where Pulse only had 6 listeners. From what the books said, Pulse had over 900,000 listeners.

I understand you weren't one of those 900,000, but you can't deny the support and respect that station earned from it's fans.

All Radaioman can do is snark....just leave him be. There are better things to do. He just wants to bash and not bring up points. Some people do that. It's just part of the territory here. Still can't feel the punches from all the years I've taken "crap" from people like him anyway.

Gentlemen..I was exaggerating for the joke of it. Pulse had listeners but you always make it sound like a monster to be reckoned with. If it was truly a viable format, a real station would switch to it and not a TV station/radio station. You just can't admit that you put being a fan ahead of being a programmer. It's like CHR listeners who swear ratings would go up with less repetition of the hits, but the truth is always the opposite

Radaio,

I've gotten so many "punches" over the years so at this point, whatever comes as a joke or for real from one that has been critical I always tend to figure as "oh well, what's the point" which is why I gave d21ofnj the response.

I actually DO "get" radio more than you give me credit for. Radio folks only see the numbers presented in front of them WITHOUT taking variables into consideration. So, and I'm not saying YOU specifically but for the sake of argument....you saw the Pulse 87 numbers at 0.7 and that's what you (and again, not saying YOU but being general here) see in front. Just the numbers. Not seeing the quirks of 87.7, a "TV station", the poor signal.....just the numbers. And for an industry that counts on billings, that's all that counts. NOT the fact that if given a regular signal above 92 with strong coverage, the station would probably be in the Top 5 in the market. You want numbers. Okay. I get that.

Now having said that, I'm just going to "assume" that you may have limited knowledge to no knowledge to what dance music is all about. Maybe you do know more but for the argument, I'll say you know little to none. And that's okay because part of what I try to do here is educate. Not get critical or "snark" on someone that may not know dance.

To that, I'll say this....there is a DIFFERENCE with what dance tracks that radio presents versus what is in the clubs. To that out of those that listen to dance music on the radio, it's fair to say that perhaps less than half of them go out "clubbing". And within THAT, about 70% of those folks would go to a club that has the music FROM the station. So in that sense, whenever Pulse 87 DID have a club event, a lot of the people that turned out were the listeners because of the impact of the station. Being that the station catered to the outer boroughs, that dance "mentality" went to those clubs that played music Pulse 87 had. However, very few of those radio listeners would go out to a club like a Cielo or Pacha because they are mostly unfamiliar with that music and when Pulse touched some of that, it was mainly on Saturday night mix shows. Saying THAT, because of those nuances, a lot of those underground tracks didn't bubble onto regular rotation. And that's okay because the whole premise is that you, as a programmer, want to get maximum results based on knowing who that audience is. And to that, there were more "outer borough/bridge and tunnel" listeners than what I call either "worldly" as well as the "GLBT" crowd (those that went to the underground establishments/or in the case of the latter "circuit events"), or the "soccer mom" (who mainly listen to 'KTU).

Yes, I'm a fan, and proud of it. But I also follow EXTREMELYclose to what radio does or doesn't do, based on what I am doing regarding the coalition. And it's no diss to those that are out there busting their tails programming the music out there; I respect. But no fan would want to go through the extent of trouble that I do, having to painstakingly prove WHY I think dance music as a format can work. I'm not saying that dance music works because "I'm Tony Santiago and I believe in it." It goes back to the whole point...YOU WANT NUMBERS for the basis of financial proof on WHY things can work (or not work).

I may not have a "consulting" firm at my disposal to present written notification of numbers and research based on certain demographics. But I DO bust tail going to many events (club events, radio station concerts, industry events) and just talk to people to see what they like or dislike. That may seem "dirty" to some but that's how I "roll" here. The big trick I have to do this time around is prove how a dance CHR station playing the dance "HITS" (and not sound like an underground club) could get 3.5+ million and not base it on the "literal" numbers on Pulse.

Sorry I gave you 7 paragraphs here. And I was going to leave things alone and just chalk it up as "another one". But in this case, if you "dish it", I'll "defend it"

All good.

Tony, I and everyone is familiar with your passion and knowledge of the genre/format. My comment is that it is ALWAYS your fall back position that your music will enhance or save a station or set it apart, etc. It's a format that sounds better in a club setting than it does surrounded by a morning show or traffic and weather. The top programmers in the country who DO have the research and the money, disagree with it being a sure top 5 format. 22 year old females who listen to many of the stations you want to add more niche dance, still prefer Beyonce and Adam Lambert and Katy Perry to track acts with little to no image or star power. They also like rock and hip hop more. Now's audience is 17 yr olds who can't even get into the clubs playing your music.

I just don't think it's as cut and dried and a sure thing as you claim, yet every time a station, any station, perhaps even 1010 Wins slips, it should add dance.

 

[nd2023]

With your logic, I can say that classical music sounds better in symphony halls than on the radio. After all, it is a niche format. But I will (rightfully) get bashed on this board if I say that classical music doesn't belong on the radio. However, someone can say that dance doesn't belong on the radio and others will defend his position. There were a couple people "cheering" when Pulse went bankrupt and when PartyFM left 87.7.

Why do you say that dance doesn't belong on the radio?

 

[d21ofnj]

It's a format that sounds better in a club setting than it does surrounded by a morning show or traffic and weather.

Dance music isn't necessarily a better sound in the club.  If you add the right tracks for a morning sound, and insert a mixshow like PartyFM did with the AM Traffic Jam, it can work out.  I do realize having a trance song or a deep underground house track being played around 7:30am isn't a pleasurable tuning. 

The top programmers in the country who DO have the research and the money, disagree with it being a sure top 5 format. 22 year old females who listen to many of the stations you want to add more niche dance, still prefer Beyonce and Adam Lambert and Katy Perry to track acts with little to no image or star power. They also like rock and hip hop more. Now's audience is 17 yr olds who can't even get into the clubs playing your music. 

I disagree.  I believe it's more 25+ year old females compared to the W18-24 who enjoy more of the pop/rock sound.  Most W18-24 are into dance music and do know the scene.  W 25-52, will enjoy the casual dance sound (KTUish) which is more skewed into pop/rock/ and hip-hop like you mentioned.  And it doesn't have to be just dance music, the young latin crowd will enjoy X more than La Mega, just like the young pop crowd enjoys Now more than Z100. 

 

[TonySantiago]

Tony, I and everyone is familiar with your passion and knowledge of the genre/format. My comment is that it is ALWAYS your fall back position that your music will enhance or save a station or set it apart, etc. It's a format that sounds better in a club setting than it does surrounded by a morning show or traffic and weather. The top programmers in the country who DO have the research and the money, disagree with it being a sure top 5 format. 22 year old females who listen to many of the stations you want to add more niche dance, still prefer Beyonce and Adam Lambert and Katy Perry to track acts with little to no image or star power. They also like rock and hip hop more. Now's audience is 17 yr olds who can't even get into the clubs playing your music.

I just don't think it's as cut and dried and a sure thing as you claim, yet every time a station, any station, perhaps even 1010 Wins slips, it should add dance.

Folks, I'm going to be doing a lot of this in BOLD because this person doesn't "get it".

Then you didn't read or for that matter MISREAD my statement because a LOT of what Pulse did was basically mainstream dance music meant MAINLY FOR THE RADIO! But then this goes with the ignorance you're clearly showing here saying that this is only club music because as I was TRYING to explain things to you in a fair manner, you go off with a sentence like this. REREAD IT, or let me make this as SIMPLISTIC as possible here (though you'll still bash on me anyway...)

1. There is a DIFFERENCE between mainstream dance and club oriented dance.
2. Not EVERYONE who likes dance music GOES TO CLUBS!!!!
3. Guess what, if a dance station played Beyonce, Katy Perry or Adam Lambert....FANTASTIC!!! (Do I dare say that all of these artists have dance remixes of their tracks if such a station wanted to spin it?)

I mean, look at how ignorant your statement is! It's like me saying that rock should only be played in rock clubs because since 'RXP is failing, why should such stations exist?! Nick said it best about classical music! What next, leave hip-hop on the "ghetto blasters" and block parties because it has NO PLACE ON HOT 97 OR POWER 105.1 since their ratings have been falling a bit because of this negative "cycle" going on as of late???

See you just wanna attack me as opposed to reading the statement because you've missed my ENTIRE point regarding "numbers" and how I UNDERSTAND that "numbers" matter to these companies. I mean, if you wanna keep it on me, whatever...I've been "beat up" long enough here. And that's what it appears to be because if you READ my statement in those 7 paragraphs with an "open mind", then you can better see where I was coming from and actually sense that I DO know radio is a business.

 

[Wildstyle K]

All this NOW talk... I never really took time to read much of it, but by the looks of things, you'd think NOW is the scum of the earth!

Anyway, as far as NOW not adding or jumping on new material fast enough, I wonder (on just a personal level alone) why any top 40 station, today, would dare slack on new music? ESPECIALLY NOW that sensible songs are making a come back! I'm loving not only the return of true quality in lyrics, but true creativity in melodies as well! Sometimes I take today's (2010!!!!) top hit music and compare it to the solid quality hit music that once was back in the 80's and realize how much we've return to actually doing meaningful and fun stuff for a change rather than... what's been going on with hit music over the past couple years, especially in mid to later 2000's.

I think we're in a good time right now and those of you who have a true passion for music and quality production in music (not just a passion for radio, but music as well) would CLEARLY UNDERSTAND what I'm saying. if it were up to me and I were living in New York and thought NOW was as bad as everyone else alleges, then I'd just ignore NOW and listen to the other better chances I have. As of right now, a lot of mainstream music is getting too good to be worried about an under performing / halfway decent station, especially in a town with choices!

Not only am I enjoying the positivity that seems to have taken over the mainstream lyrical sound, but it also seems like we've reached an "age of true creativity" where people are showing more of their creative side with less of this feeling of having to "be a certain way" or "harden" themselves just to make it. It surely took a while, but I'm glad that this phase in music for a change seems to be a pleasant one. Plain and simple, everything goes in phases and trends and when a sound that certain people love starts falling away from chart domination, they are always either in denial or plain upset about it. Rock N Rollers aren't too happy right now. Jazz fans aren't too happy right now. Hip Hop fans are currently either in denial or think everyone has sold out or gone ____(fill in blank here)____.  ...etc etc etc. Minus some of the country hits, I'm pretty content with where we are in music today, although I would not mind just a little more nicely sounding alternative hits added into top 40.

Anyway, that's just my opinion on the entire sound of top 40 right NOW. We're almost sounding just as good as overseas mainstream and rhythmic formats here in the U.S.. more variety, less "sea of sameness" in CHR now.

By the way, you'd think if the station is named "NOW", they'd be more up to date, or at least up to date enough to prevent these type of threads from having this much success on the radio boards. Not that my last remark sentence was too high in importance, but.. if you didn't understand it, think about it for a while... because I am done.  Don't feel like explaining.

 

[BabyDJ]

It's so clear that you work for Now FM. Only a Now FM employee (Or Chunky himself) would think Now sounds goo, that Elvis isn't a local show, would exaggerate the 5 people they have talking into 20, and think Chunky is not only good, but better than Z's jocks and think that Chunky is the reason for the decent ratings at Now. Now's music draws in the demo and they still trail tremendously to the top 18-34 stations. To even compare Elvis' show which is successful in 20-30 markets with Now's "local Programming" of Nick "I can't speak English" and am never in the NY studio is ridiculous. HE isn't local and truthfully, people who listen don't really care about local. Board jockeys do

You think Mo Bounce is better than Chunky? LOL.

Listen, Z-100 was a great station, but Clear Channel has screwed this property by taking the localism out of the station by syndicating Duran and putting on Seacrest. They follow that with two of the most cookie cutter CHR jocks you could possibly unearth.

As PPM samples turn over, NOW cume and share rises, especially in the demos that are most important. And no, I don't work for NOW. But thank you, it'd be great to work for them... one of the few CBS stations that knows what they are doing in this market.

 

[Radaioman]

It's so clear that you work for Now FM. Only a Now FM employee (Or Chunky himself) would think Now sounds goo, that Elvis isn't a local show, would exaggerate the 5 people they have talking into 20, and think Chunky is not only good, but better than Z's jocks and think that Chunky is the reason for the decent ratings at Now. Now's music draws in the demo and they still trail tremendously to the top 18-34 stations. To even compare Elvis' show which is successful in 20-30 markets with Now's "local Programming" of Nick "I can't speak English" and am never in the NY studio is ridiculous. HE isn't local and truthfully, people who listen don't really care about local. Board jockeys do

You think Mo Bounce is better than Chunky? LOL.

Listen, Z-100 was a great station, but Clear Channel has screwed this property by taking the localism out of the station by syndicating Duran and putting on Seacrest. They follow that with two of the most cookie cutter CHR jocks you could possibly unearth.

As PPM samples turn over, NOW cume and share rises, especially in the demos that are most important. And no, I don't work for NOW. But thank you, it'd be great to work for them... one of the few CBS stations that knows what they are doing in this market.

Chunky is a train wreck and Mo is fun and polished. So maybe you ARE Chunky. As for Elvis, his show was never about local. They talk about general appealing topics. Not what pizza place is best in Manhattan . Their ratings are higher since syndicated than ever before so your logic doesn't work. It's about the music and the humor and the content. 2 things that 92.3 Now does not have in ANY day part.