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WTVY-FM/WDJR-FM

Louis_009 said:
There is no website of the new 96.9 yet to listren to 96.9 with x-mas music is only to hear it on your radio 96.9 FM. I heared it alittle and they are playing x-mas music. Its seem that WDJR-FM is not as powerfull as before near the Tallahassee area. They still 100,000 watts station. I know WTVY and WDJR sometimes with thier singal that reach part of Tallahassee and point west.

Once again WDJR 96.9 FM is all x-mas music on the FM dail. Some of you guys saying a AC station for the flip good chioce. How about a Jack-FM? or Sports as ESPN Radio. I know most ESPN stations goes with 6,000 watts.

the following is loaded with sarcasm louis009 so please don't take personally....

"WDJR-FM is not as powerful as before near the Tall...." you are assuming that they have always been running up to and not over the legal limit of modulation .....always, even when not expecting a "visit" due to applications.

"Jack-FM or ESPN radio" ......the only sports station in this market to make money is WOOF-AM but that's on the strength of local morning show Phil Paramore. Without local, it falls flat with virtually no revenue (didn't magic try that on 103.9). As for the Jack, though I personally like the format okay, in Dothan, without lots of local (non-recorded, ANSWER THE PHONES, contesting, promotion, weather, etc) you will not be able to sell it for anything. Magic did that also. If y'all doubt me, please look up the selling price of WKMX in Sept of 2004 and the present valuation placed upon wkmx in the sale just completed.

End of rant Louis. I'm guessing that you are in the programming/on air part of the radio world which is an obviously essential part of radio. But without sales, the best AQH doesn't mean anything.......speaking of, that's a huge mistake made by many in radio and TV. AQH is often viewed as the "end all" of success which is wrong. If i have the choice of selling a station with a big cume or a station with a big AQH and I'll take the cume every single time because I can (proper frequency of course) deliver good results to advertisers over and over and over. I understand that on air lives and dies but that is really POOR management if that is how you beat up (ie control) your on air costs. Radio is absolutely a three legged stool and if you get anything out of balance you either bust your face or your butt or both.

Radio is still awesome with awesome potential but while the bean counters (cpa's) make the calls and while the "flip masters" make the calls it's crap for the employees, listeners and advertisers. And that is true every market no matter the size. Anyway, if your still in the biz, please do radio the best you can under the circumstances of your situation. If your not in it anymore (c'est moi) then encourage those that are. Things will change, they always do.
 
Louis_009 said:
There is no website of the new 96.9 yet to listren to 96.9 with x-mas music is only to hear it on your radio 96.9 FM. I heared it alittle and they are playing x-mas music. Its seem that WDJR-FM is not as powerfull as before near the Tallahassee area. They still 100,000 watts station. I know WTVY and WDJR sometimes with thier singal that reach part of Tallahassee and point west.

As I understand it, WDJR had to move towers when WTVY-TV turned on its digital signal. It only moved a few miles away, but I believe its new tower was a little shorter than the WTVY tower (or it wasn't placed as high up on the new tower as it was on the WTVY tower).
 
You are correct. WDJR-FM moved only a few hundred yards from the WTVY-TV stick and went down from a 1,500 to 1,049 feet. With FM, height is (just about) everything.

@Stewy regarding modulation and signal strength... with FM it's almost irrelevant. Higher modulation simply gaurds against a low signal-noise ratio. When I left WDJR in 2009, the FXi exciter (which has a built-in limiter) stood at 110%. That's legal when running RDS.
 
Furthermore, Montgomery is 155 feet further below sea level than Bonifay, which would make the WDJR stick "1,204 feet" above me - and since 96.9 is a wide open channel (and even after a the downgrade in height), you can still hear it here in Montgomery...and even as far away as Atlanta in the morning and at night.

This is all completely irrelevant of course, because they're not selling WDJR outside the Dothan market ;)
 
In the north florida big bend area like Tallahassee as well sometimes we both get 96.9 on the FM dail most of the time is from Jacksonville's 96.9 The Eagle classtic hits station from cox radio around the Wakulla County area.
 
So it seems to be a foregone conclusion that WDJR will go AC as "Mix 96.9", real original by the way. Anyway, any idea who will be on the station? Will it be satellite, local or what? And please God tell me there won't be any John Tesh. Thanks in advance.
 
Dothan Radio said:
You are correct. WDJR-FM moved only a few hundred yards from the WTVY-TV stick and went down from a 1,500 to 1,049 feet. With FM, height is (just about) everything.

@Stewy regarding modulation and signal strength... with FM it's almost irrelevant. Higher modulation simply gaurds against a low signal-noise ratio. When I left WDJR in 2009, the FXi exciter (which has a built-in limiter) stood at 110%. That's legal when running RDS.


Oooookay. ;)
 
Agree reseacher, though if I may add, the market residents will lose the most. Compared to them, the loss of entertainment value for we on this board is minor.
 
If you work with or are affiliated with TRP, please, prove me wrong. Please, do good radio. Please, serve the community intensely. Not for six months, not just during survey periods but continually.
 
Stewy said:
Agree reseacher, though if I may add, the market residents will lose the most. Compared to them, the loss of entertainment value for we on this board is minor.

Stewy, you are right. At least there were once passionate radio people at one time. And the market residents and advertisers lose when there is no competition.
 
Radioresearcher said:
This market now has zero to discuss with Clay owning the entire market. Yawn... It was sure more exciting when stations competed with each OTHER.

Double A.......you are so right. I was born (conceived in a transmitter room in 1955) into the radio business.
It was always fun.
The competition was one of the reasons.
The business has changed so much. I thought I would never say this...but... "I Hate Radio"
If it wasn't for the primeval radio force driving me, I would jump ship entirely.
It really SUX to be on the downside of an Era.
I guess I will continue to fix transmitters until I die always lamenting about the good days of radio.
A sad commentary at best.
 
Radioresearcher said:
Stewy said:
Agree reseacher, though if I may add, the market residents will lose the most. Compared to them, the loss of entertainment value for we on this board is minor.

Stewy, you are right. At least there were once passionate radio people at one time. And the market residents and advertisers lose when there is no competition.

No competition? Loss of entertaiment value? No more passionate people in radio? What are you guys talking about? John and Amy, Dave and Melody, Bud and Broadway, Wendy and K.W., Billy and Julie, Brett and Amy. When has there ever been more competition in Dothan radio? When have listeners and advertisers had more variety? When has there ever been more passionate people in Dothan radio? You guys act like somebody died. I can't recall a time when Dothan will have more quality and competitive choices for listeners and advertisers.
 
dothandarkman said:
Radioresearcher said:
Stewy said:
Agree reseacher, though if I may add, the market residents will lose the most. Compared to them, the loss of entertainment value for we on this board is minor.

Stewy, you are right. At least there were once passionate radio people at one time. And the market residents and advertisers lose when there is no competition.

No competition? Loss of entertaiment value? No more passionate people in radio? What are you guys talking about? John and Amy, Dave and Melody, Bud and Broadway, Wendy and K.W., Billy and Julie, Brett and Amy. When has there ever been more competition in Dothan radio? When have listeners and advertisers had more variety? When has there ever been more passionate people in Dothan radio? You guys act like somebody died. I can't recall a time when Dothan will have more quality and competitive choices for listeners and advertisers.

Weren't "Bud and Broadway" just taken off the air? "Brett and Amy" what station are they on?

How do you figure there is more competition? There are now like 9 stations owned by the same people. That's not competition, that's a monopoly. An now instead of the market being inundated by country stations, it will be saturated by AC and the like so there goes your argument about variety. There aren't going to be any more choices, there will just be a different format shoved down your throat than what was previously shoved down it.

And advertisers, really? They are the ones that will lose the most.

In Dothan, advertisers really only have two good choices to go to for advertising, WOOF and the Monopoly People. So if they don't like the Monopoly People's rates they have only one station to turn to.

In case you are slow in the business sense, this means that there will no longer be much competition in rates, and TRP will for the most part be able to set rates for the market at whatever they feel it should be.

Again I don't see where you get the variety thing, seems to me the Monopoly People have set it up so that they are the ones that determine what choice of stations we have to listen too, and if we don't like it there is no longer anyone else to go to.

And we wonder why radio is a dying industry, because of stupid people and greed, that's why.
 
Keep in mind that the government changed the ownership rules, not small market station owners. The government’s telecommunication act forced station owners to expand, or sink. In a small market like Dothan, where there are not enough revenues to support numerous groups, the fewer owners the better―better for employees to make a career with one successful group, rather than being bounced around because the third group is doomed to struggle.

I would think Dothan is about to experience stability, providing its best radio in years. You should be glad that there is a group in Dothan ready to heavily invest in this tier three market.
 
Ele said:
Keep in mind that the government changed the ownership rules, not small market station owners. The government’s telecommunication act forced station owners to expand, or sink. In a small market like Dothan, where there are not enough revenues to support numerous groups, the fewer owners the better―better for employees to make a career with one successful group, rather than being bounced around because the third group is doomed to struggle.

I would think Dothan is about to experience stability, providing its best radio in years. You should be glad that there is a group in Dothan ready to heavily invest in this tier three market.

Post fail. The Telecommunications Act opened the door to wall street bean counters to commoditize the industry which is now run by bean counters focused only on a short term bottom line. There are fewer employees nationwide, less revenue and almost completely homogenized product. As for "bounced around", i think that the #1 rocker in LA has a morning guy that used to be here as does Chi on the #1 chr have an evening guy that used to be here, some still here have turn down opportunities to to the biggies, point being this used to be a launching pad for talent. Your second paragraph sounds to me like something the lackey of a conquering king would say to the peasantry gathered in the town square amidst the burning ruins of their once thriving village.
 
The Dothan person I know worked for the outgoing group and said she was extremely delighted about the recent events. She was disappointed that it did not happen earlier but apparently one of the local owners (whom she referred to as the self-appointed Queen) tried to dumb down the market by filing meaningless objections, without the slightest regard to [who you referred to as] the local peasants.

Since you do not seem to be a fan Wall Street, perhaps you should eagerly applaud Dothan for being one of the few Alabama markets where the NYC bean counters are not part of the local landscape.
 
Passionate radio people? Huh. I guess going on 9 years here is not enough passion. I'm sorry...I will try harder...... :D
 
From what I heard, the new format will be "MIX 96.9"

RIP BIG DOG you will be missed. The signal is heard here on a regular basis.

-Rob
 
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