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Alt 92.3 to Become WINS Simulcast

Elliot [Segal] has done his thing at WWDC for over 20 years now, it has been successful enough to be syndicated. Problem was it was beamed to NYC when traditionally, it’s the other way around.
Well, DC is the nation's capital. But then, apart from XM before the satellite radio merger, we think of news/talk shows when we think of DC.
 
In this case, since they're responsible for a lot of Audacy's national programming, a lot of them are probably not fired. So it's basically "Be good or you will be fired"

If they were fired they'd probably just pull the plug.
In LA, pretty much all of the airstaff was retained, and that station was doing about as well as WNYL was in its final months, and they pulled the plug mid-song. No goodbyes or acknowledgement on the air from the personalities that the station was going away.
 
In this case, since they're responsible for a lot of Audacy's national programming, a lot of them are probably not fired. So it's basically "Be good or you will be fired"

I could have sworn I heard the effects of a dump button being hit at the beginning of one of the final breaks. I wasn't recording though, so I can't be sure of what I heard or go back and listen again.
 
Why do they always target our alternative rock stations?
92.3 K-Rock-92.3 Free FM
92.3 K-Rock-92.3 NOW FM-92.3 AMP Radio
101.9 RXP-101.9 FM News
New Rock 101.9-101.9 WFAN
ALT 92.3-92.3 1010 WINS FM
Because they are a hard sell and don't make much money, if any at all?
 
Listening to the Audacy's Alternative "New Arrivals" stream I just heard them say HD3. Are they on 92.3 HD3 now?
Edit: AceBiscuits answered the question.

WINS-FM line up:

92.3 + HD1 - 1010 WINS at 92.3 FM
92.3 HD2 - ALT 92.3 HD2
92.3 HD3 - Channel Q
 
This idea you must have an all talk morning show on a music station is the reason why radio is dying. People that want to hear music will just go to streaming in the morning and not ever return.
But even if you go back to the 60's and 70's you can see that people expect and want more than just music in the morning.

While the desired amount of "human presence" on radio overall has changed along with the rise of new media, we still see that in nearly every format mornings is different and pure music plays don't get outstanding results.

Yes, there are "gimme the music" listeners who want no talk, but those are very few. So stations in general try to either have a full personality show or a music based one with lots of human presence and whatever service elements are still relevant to the target audience.
 
This idea you must have an all talk morning show on a music station is the reason why radio is dying. People that want to hear music will just go to streaming in the morning and not ever return.

But even if you go back to the 60's and 70's you can see that people expect and want more than just music in the morning.

While the desired amount of "human presence" on radio overall has changed along with the rise of new media, we still see that in nearly every format mornings is different and pure music plays don't get outstanding results.

Yes, there are "gimme the music" listeners who want no talk, but those are very few. So stations in general try to either have a full personality show or a music based one with lots of human presence and whatever service elements are still relevant to the target audience.
Elliot in the Morning would've been alright if they actually played music during the show instead of the commercial free after party. They should've never fired Cane and Corey!!!!
 
This idea you must have an all talk morning show on a music station is the reason why radio is dying. People that want to hear music will just go to streaming in the morning and not ever return.

You take things you don't like and extrapolate them to "reasons why radio is dying."

Yet talk morning shows are why other rock stations in Philadelphia, Seattle, Los Angeles, and even St. Louis are getting great ratings. People can get music anywhere. They can only get their favorite hosts on the radio. Music, especially alternative music, is becoming so personalized and so individual that it's best distribution service is streaming.

Elliot in the Morning would've been alright if they actually played music during the show instead of the commercial free after party.

Then you'd complain about the songs they'd play. It's too old or it's too pop or it's not what you like.
 
But even if you go back to the 60's and 70's you can see that people expect and want more than just music in the morning.

While the desired amount of "human presence" on radio overall has changed along with the rise of new media, we still see that in nearly every format mornings is different and pure music plays don't get outstanding results.

Yes, there are "gimme the music" listeners who want no talk, but those are very few. So stations in general try to either have a full personality show or a music based one with lots of human presence and whatever service elements are still relevant to the target audience.
More than just music but not completely eliminating the music. I said the problem is with having "all talk" and as said by Acebiscuits, "strong personalities to accompany the music".

I think you can attribute Scott Shannon's success over the years by doing both.
 
Come on...it has nothing to do with "societal norms" or being "anti corporate." You are emotional about this change...I understand.
But seriously...it has to do with MAKING MONEY. It's really just that simple.
Audacy would play Kidz Bop 24/7 if it attracted sufficient listeners and billing numbers.
I'm really not. You are misreading my tone through text. Honestly, I couldnt care any less about 92.3 in New York for two reasons. First, I'm in Boston, so I can just use the audacy app to pick KROQ or any other Alternative station that is on across the country. Heck, I could still stream Elliot if I was inclined. Two, I have a subscription to SiriusXM. The movement of Alternative music is aimed at being anti-establishment. That's the core purist listener. Take note of how I say Alternative as a music genre is different than Alternative as radio format, they're as two separate things.

And the funny thing is we are in agreement. You and and David, who liked your post, are misunderstanding what I was trying to say.
 
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You take things you don't like and extrapolate them to "reasons why radio is dying."

Yet talk morning shows are why other rock stations in Philadelphia, Seattle, Los Angeles, and even St. Louis are getting great ratings. People can get music anywhere. They can only get their favorite hosts on the radio. Music, especially alternative music, is becoming so personalized and so individual that it's best distribution service is streaming.
Those stations did not completely eliminate music in the morning. Like I said the problem is with "all talk" while eliminating music in the morning. Strong personalities to accompany the music is not the issue.

Besides "Elliot in the Morning" was just really bad.
 
More than just music but not completely eliminating the music. I said the problem is with having "all talk" and as said by Acebiscuits, "strong personalities to accompany the music".
That is my preference as well, as all talk does not help the station brand the rest of the day.
I think you can attribute Scott Shannon's success over the years by doing both.
And when he deviated from that, as in the Los Angeles disaster, it fails.
 
That is my preference as well, as all talk does not help the station brand the rest of the day.
There remains one big, notable exception: John Lanigan on WMJI went all-talk in 1992 to combat Stern, and not only did he largely succeed (on an oldies station, no less!) it remained all-talk until he retired in 2014.

It took seven years for successor host Mark Nolan to evolve the show into a more conventional music-light talk show, and that’s saying a lot.
 
Though the New York market apparently couldn't support a commercial Alt station, this is the only major market with 2 AAA stations. I think that both WFUV 90.7 and The Peak WXPK 107.1 are excellent. Though neither station reaches the entire market, I believe most listeners in the area can receive at least one of them.
Both play a considerable amount of Alt songs, and may attract some of the former WNYL listeners.
 
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