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And the winning format is...

Johnboy Crenshaw:

I think you guys hit the nail on the head with this station. Nice job, I really like it. I'm hearing songs that I haven't heard since the Channel Z days.

Is there any chance in the future we see another station for another under-serving key demographic of 25 to 44-year-old listeners of rhythmic music?
 
I have to admit, I really like the new station. Ive been sitting here at my pad in Albany and the station comes in crystal clear. Interesting enough, I really am shocked that CC is going after the little guys (NABCO) on this, oh wait...they always go after the little guy.

Well, I really do like the station. It will be interesting to see how the whole thing pans out since Columbus is an oversaturated rock city. WBNS and WBZX will be the most affected I assume. WBNS will shift younger I have a feeling and be a thorn in NCI's back end.

Here will be the really sticky fly in the pudding, Saga will most likely be walking away with the title of WHIZ 102.5. What kind of format could they put on that signal that would be competitive. Columbus is too oversaturated.
 
dawg4life said:
Johnboy Crenshaw:

I think you guys hit the nail on the head with this station. Nice job, I really like it. I'm hearing songs that I haven't heard since the Channel Z days.

Is there any chance in the future we see another station for another under-serving key demographic of 25 to 44-year-old listeners of rhythmic music?

I don't know why people pine for the old Channel Z. It was BORING!
Channel ZZzzzzzzz...
 
I'm diggin it already! Radio 106.7 is going to be a big hit IMHO. Great signal too! Comes in clear to Indian Lake(in the car) and even heard it under 106.5 Greenville Neil Armstrongs home town.

As for 102.5....rythmic ac or chr of some type, but you never know:)
 
AugC said:
I'm diggin it already! Radio 106.7 is going to be a big hit IMHO. Great signal too! Comes in clear to Indian Lake(in the car) and even heard it under 106.5 Greenville Neil Armstrongs home town.

I dig it too but mostly because it takes me back to my college days a lot of the time. The signal still has problems downtown around 315/670 junction but not NEARLY as bad as 103.9 does. I still get some static here and there on the southwest side of Columbus but it's fairly decent in Dublin.

Unlike most people here though I think Radio 106.7 is a clever moniker. Why? Because Radio as an institution is in a battle with MP3 players, satellite, internet, etc. This is "RADIO" beeeyotch! To me it kind of spits in the face of all the competition and says "without radio, you guys would have been nothing". It's also (in my mind) a swipe at "CD"101. Which by the way has become a little dated... might as well call yourself 8-Track101 since CDs will eventually be displaced as vinyl was.

I like CD101 because I like to root for the little guys too but the HAVE to be pushed to become better. Competition does that. I don't think they are in any trouble. They weathered the Channel Z storm and are still around. The same will be true for Radio 106.7. If they adjust accordingly, they will not lose their core listeners.

I also expect the Blitz to go more metal than they already are.
 
I like the format, but there was static on Rt. 33 just south of the Rt. 161 intersection in Dublin last night - the coverage for their license city is not to impressive (near the Scioto River).
 
I forgot to mention - the Sawmill area and other areas of Dublin seem OK - the Scioto river valley portion of Dublin seems to be the most problematic for the signal.
 
CBusDave said:
Unlike most people here though I think Radio 106.7 is a clever moniker.  Why? Because Radio as an institution is in a battle with MP3 players, satellite, internet, etc.  This is "RADIO" beeeyotch!  To me it kind of spits in the face of all the competition and says "without radio, you guys would have been nothing".  It's also (in my mind) a swipe at "CD"101.  Which by the way has become a little dated... might as well call yourself 8-Track101 since CDs will eventually be displaced as vinyl was.

Interesting theories, though perhaps they're simply trying to provide the media differentiation as a strightforward statement, without that element of bravado your "beeyotch" statement implied.

I think Radio complements the station's apparent low-key approach.  It's simple and inherently anti-hype.
 
The game has changed and that's why CD101 and the Blitz will hurt a lot more now than when Channel Z was here. The Blitz never recovered from losing Howard and continues to just keep their nose above water. CD101, like I have said before, is a legend in their own mind and they are simply out of touch. They get their "station of the year" awards the same way WMMS got theirs way back when. Those awards and a $1.75 will get you a large Coke at Mickey D's! But seriously, both those stations, like many in the 18-34 demo, are losing to other platforms like the internet, etc. It's a proven fact that demo is leaving terrestial radio in huge numbers. Arbitron is struggling to get an acceptable sample of young folks in most markets. A well focused station like Radio 106.7, which is concentrating on 25-44, will just cut them off at the knees and will steal enough from both, along with a few from QFM96 and others to lead a comfortable life and add more to the CC bottom line. Radio 106.7 is set up for a PPM world and they will make it go by playing to the habits and lifestyle of that audience. This is simply an "entertainment" business and each product has a platform and an audience that accepts and uses it without problem. The trick is finding out what that platform is. Unless radio changes for the younger audience and what they want is choice and content that they can control when they want it, then younger demos will be out of reach for the present mindset. This happened some years ago with the Windham Hill artists who were selling millions with no radio airplay. It's happening today with MySpace and Hannah Montana. MySpace is the place to go to break new artists, not radio. Video games are doing the same thing. It comes down to what do you have and what's the best platform to get it to those who want it. Terrestial radio is not serving to the younger demos and that's why the Blitz and CD101 will be having trouble in the future. Neither is doing enough to keep the younger demos listening!
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Yes, the number one album of the year had virtually zilch radio airplay: High School Musical 2.

Actually, Daughtry had the number one album of the year.

And anyone who wanted to hear HSM2 was most likely listening to Radio Disney anyway.
 
I just got off work, John; sorry I couldn't respond sooner to your post.

Internet radio is not for me, and if you go back to my "For People Who Don't Like Radio" topic and read the fifth post down on that topic's second page, you'll find out the good reasons why. On the other hand, I'd absolutely love to help WCBE or WHKC or any of the many non-CC-owned commercial stations that I've approached, but I'm not going to go into detail about exactly who has said exactly what to me over the past seven years. If it's important to you to know what has transpired, then you can contact the people at those stations yourself (well, the ones who are still in the radio business here -- about half of them aren't), and if they want to tell you, then that's fine with me. I've never told anyone about the specifics of yours and my communications, and so I'm not going to reveal to you any of their statements to me.

You don't owe me a thing, John. Not a job, not a frequency, not nothing. I'm just fighting the good fight for a music that obviously is very important to me -- anything wrong with that? If it really bothers you that I don't care for the way that WYTS and 106.7 are being used, and that I'm not afraid to express this dissatisfaction, then I suggest that you report my posts to this website's moderator and attempt to get me taken off the board.

By the way, "Toaster 106.7" would have been much better than "Radio 106.7", since within two years its format is actually going to be toast.
 
jakej said:
You don't owe me a thing, John. Not a job, not a frequency, not nothing. I'm just fighting the good fight for a music that obviously is very important to me -- anything wrong with that? If it really bothers you that I don't care for the way that WYTS and 106.7 are being used, and that I'm not afraid to express this dissatisfaction, then I suggest that you report my posts to this website's moderator and attempt to get me taken off the board.

By the way, "Toaster 106.7" would have been much better than "Radio 106.7", since within two years its format is actually going to be toast.
JakeJ, when you first introduced your format, this is what I had to say--"Jake, It's great to see the creative wheels spinning! Whether this particular idea is a good one or not is subjective. Regardless, I hope you find an outlet for your creativity, because it's obvious you have something to contribute."-- Obviously the music is important to you, however, music and the radio biz is also very important to JbC as well, so to tell him that his shiny new toy will be toast within 2 years is not so cool, and in my view is a personal insult to him. He works hard at his gig just like you and me, and just because he didn't select your format, doesn't mean the one he and his team did select won't succeed.
 
I like about 9 out of 10 songs 106.7 plays and that's a pretty good if you ask me. They could do without some of the old "poppy" songs that everybody has heard a million times but other than that, they're a cool station. The imaging sucks though. For such a cool station, they're imaging and it boring and bland.
 
dawg4life said:
I like about 9 out of 10 songs 106.7 plays and that's a pretty good if you ask me. They could do without some of the old "poppy" songs that everybody has heard a million times but other than that, they're a cool station. The imaging sucks though. For such a cool station, they're imaging and it boring and bland.

I was thinking 8 of 10. It seems like they are trying to lure some old Channel Z listeners back with some of the song selections. 8 years have gone by and Pearl Jam's "Last Kiss" still sucks, so please move on.

I know they are still creating the playlist, but here are some things I've noticed.

Good:
White Stripes
Smashing Pumpkins: need more like "Cherub Rock" and "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" etc.
Sum 41 - Fat Lip: nice surprise
Filter - Hey man, nice shot: glad they aren't wimping out too much like Channel Z always did
Saliva: see Filter comment
Alice In Chains - Would?: see Filter comment
Older Radiohead
Tracks from the 80s mixed in, seems to be a trend lately with modern rock
Muse: on the right track for some variety
The Raconteurs


Bad:
Bob Marley??? Hello!
Shawn Mullins: Blech!
New Radicals: Huh?
Too much DMB
No Nine Inch Nails, as of yet
Gin Blossoms
Counting Crows

That's all for now.

Edit: One more thing. I'm not sure if they are planning on being more of a classic alternative/modern rock station, but I hope they settle in a little more current.
 
xiradiodotcom said:
Bad:
Bob Marley??? Hello!
Shawn Mullins: Blech!
New Radicals: Huh?
Too much DMB
No Nine Inch Nails, as of yet
Gin Blossoms
Counting Crows

Re Marley, Bossoms, Crows and even Mullins:  If the idea is to be a bit more mainstream and somewhat older-demo than CD101, adding an AAA/Pop-leaning component seems logical.  And it provides "comfort zone" anchor-points for P2 listeners -- a very important group in generating cume.
 
pbf1 said:
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Yes, the number one album of the year had virtually zilch radio airplay:  High School Musical 2.

Actually, Daughtry had the number one album of the year.

And anyone who wanted to hear HSM2 was most likely listening to Radio Disney anyway.

We must be using different sources.  The HSM2 Soundtrack is the #1 album on the Billboard 200/Nielsen SoundScan chart (1/1/07-12/2/07).  They show Daughtry as #2.  As for Radio Disney listeners (who no doubt heard HSM2 almost continually), they do show up in PPM ratings, which go down to age 6 (not that they should...).
 
xiradiodotcom said:
Bad:
Bob Marley??? Hello!
Shawn Mullins: Blech!
New Radicals: Huh?
Too much DMB
No Nine Inch Nails, as of yet
Gin Blossoms
Counting Crows

Personally I was happy to hear No Woman, No Cry by Marley and I do like New Radicals.. they were on Channel Z back in the day. I would agree they could trim DMB.

I'm surprised no Nine Inch Nails and I also have heard precious little Beastie Boys which is prominently displayed on their homepage as a core artist.

This being said, I haven't been listening non-stop and I have heard very few repeats when I have listened so I'm not 100% positive I haven't just missed the above.

Another thought came to me as I was driving around this morning... the timing is right for this format. Channel Z was aimed toward 18-34 year olds... add 7 years since they went off the air and now you are catering to the 25-44 year old set perfectly with the playlist they have now. More money to be made now than when it was aimed at the younger set.
 
I apologize if my toast joke was in poor taste, Doc, but John was the one who put forward "Toaster 106.7", and I just couldn't resist doing something with it.
You write that he and his team have chosen 106.7's format, and the station is his new toy, but at other times on this board I've been told that programming decisions are never made locally but rather by head honchos at a broadcasting company's corporate headquarters, which in Clear Channel's case would mean that the selection of the format was made by someone in San Antonio. What happened this time? Does anybody really know??
 
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