Andre out at Party

[nd2023]

I'm sure Andre has a better commute to Pulse87 than to Party 105. I was so surprised to hear him on 87.7 today afternoon.

 

[ericdavisroxx]

Eric, great to hear from you! Just wanted to say you and 985 the bone rocked!! Loved the fact that you were the only station in the nation that played metallica creeping death @ 10 am . Wish you guys went heavier on the currents, but you were the only ones who had the balls to rock currents PERIOD. Your show kicked ass. Hope all is well.

Hardrocker...Thanks for the props.

You know with all this talk, attention and commentary on the TMO stations, the thought occured to me that maybe all the TMO posters on this board should get together and purchase the stations so they can run the mthe way they want to. Maybe do what they did in Green Bay with the Packers. I think these properties could be had on the cheap. I've got $5...Who's with me? Who's in?

 

[motnow]

I'll see your $5 and raise you $10 !

 

[TonySantiago]

I'll raise you and put down $20!

 

[junior]

You know I was thinking of offereing money too but those stations aren't worth a thing at this point and quite honestly haven't been for years !!!

 

[radioli]

You know I was thinking of offereing money too but those stations aren't worth a thing at this point and quite honestly haven't been for years !!!

The only thing you should be "OFFERING" is to take a spelling course. I disagree. I think the value of the station increases every day. I think the same 6 people that talk to each other through posts on this board really have no idea what's going on at Party 105. I hear alot of commercials and events with sponsors, and according to a really reliable source, they were sold out this past weekend.

 

[PSA_Man]

You know I was thinking of offereing money too but those stations aren't worth a thing at this point and quite honestly haven't been for years !!!

I hear alot of commercials and events with sponsors, and according to a really reliable source, they were sold out this past weekend.

This is true... I hear WHITE HOUSE along with all the other TMO owned commercials all the time!!!
True is also the fact that they sell White house despite all the competition of booming night life in the hamptons!

SO THERE!

 

[WKRPJUNKIE]

I did not know WhiteHouse was a TMO owned business? Damn , if they do they have their hands in everything. Newspaper, restaurants, radio and now your saying nightclubs.. No Wonder why everyone hates them, they are cornering the nightlife on Long Island. I am not a hater so Kudos to the Morey's for holding it down. I think his name is Jed, what a work-a-holic.

 

[PSA_Man]

I did not know WhiteHouse was a TMO owned business? Damn , if they do they have their hands in everything. Newspaper, restaurants, radio and now your saying nightclubs.. No Wonder why everyone hates them, they are cornering the nightlife on Long Island. I am not a hater so Kudos to the Morey's for holding it down. I think his name is Jed, what a work-a-holic.

TMO doesn't Vic Latino does, so it doesn't count as advertising since he makes the money on the booze TMO doesn't have an overhead to pay for shows cover charge takes care of acts. so it's all money going in circle that may make books look good but in the end it's just going from one place to another without adding at any point.

 

[radioli]

I did not know WhiteHouse was a TMO owned business? Damn , if they do they have their hands in everything. Newspaper, restaurants, radio and now your saying nightclubs.. No Wonder why everyone hates them, they are cornering the nightlife on Long Island. I am not a hater so Kudos to the Morey's for holding it down. I think his name is Jed, what a work-a-holic.

TMO doesn't Vic Latino does, so it doesn't count as advertising since he makes the money on the booze TMO doesn't have an overhead to pay for shows cover charge takes care of acts. so it's all money going in circle that may make books look good but in the end it's just going from one place to another without adding at any point.

Do you work for the company? You seem to know alot about the inner workings, but let's look at this and discuss....
1) "TMO doesn't Vic Latino does, so it doesn't count as advertising since he makes the money on the booze" --- making money on the booze? What point were you trying to make. What does booze have to do with the advertising?
2) "TMO doesn't have an overhead to pay for shows cover charge takes care of acts". ----Sounds to me like they're saving alot of money and getting alot of exposure in front of the huge crowds that turn out at Whitehouse.
3) "it's all money going in circle that may make books look good but in the end it's just going from one place to another without adding at any point. ---- I think you're wrong about adding, I have to give the Morey's a little credit, if it wasn't adding dollars, I don't think they would do it. Making the books look good? Using your scenario, they're bringing big acts to Whitehouse, they're covering all of their costs, it sounds great on the radio, they're getting alot of exposure in front of listeners and potential listeners, they're selling sponsorships and I'm sure entertaining clients at these shows. I don't know about you PSA Man, but I call that Good Business.

 

[PSA_Man]

I did not know WhiteHouse was a TMO owned business? Damn , if they do they have their hands in everything. Newspaper, restaurants, radio and now your saying nightclubs.. No Wonder why everyone hates them, they are cornering the nightlife on Long Island. I am not a hater so Kudos to the Morey's for holding it down. I think his name is Jed, what a work-a-holic.

TMO doesn't Vic Latino does, so it doesn't count as advertising since he makes the money on the booze TMO doesn't have an overhead to pay for shows cover charge takes care of acts. so it's all money going in circle that may make books look good but in the end it's just going from one place to another without adding at any point.

Do you work for the company? You seem to know alot about the inner workings, but let's look at this and discuss....
1) "TMO doesn't Vic Latino does, so it doesn't count as advertising since he makes the money on the booze" --- making money on the booze? What point were you trying to make. What does booze have to do with the advertising?
2) "TMO doesn't have an overhead to pay for shows cover charge takes care of acts". ----Sounds to me like they're saving alot of money and getting alot of exposure in front of the huge crowds that turn out at Whitehouse.
3) "it's all money going in circle that may make books look good but in the end it's just going from one place to another without adding at any point. ---- I think you're wrong about adding, I have to give the Morey's a little credit, if it wasn't adding dollars, I don't think they would do it. Making the books look good? Using your scenario, they're bringing big acts to Whitehouse, they're covering all of their costs, it sounds great on the radio, they're getting alot of exposure in front of listeners and potential listeners, they're selling sponsorships and I'm sure entertaining clients at these shows. I don't know about you PSA Man, but I call that Good Business.

I'm close enough to know and see beyond the facade. That's all I need to say. Regardless of what I say and or can prove and whether you believe or not it doesn't make a difference. So once again believe what you will I know what is going on and eventually you will know it too, then you'll come out of your denial. Or are you some one who needs TMO station to look good in the public eye? That was a rhetorical question, no need to answer cause I won't spend anymore time on a "worthless" point.

 

[radioli]

I did not know WhiteHouse was a TMO owned business? Damn , if they do they have their hands in everything. Newspaper, restaurants, radio and now your saying nightclubs.. No Wonder why everyone hates them, they are cornering the nightlife on Long Island. I am not a hater so Kudos to the Morey's for holding it down. I think his name is Jed, what a work-a-holic.

TMO doesn't Vic Latino does, so it doesn't count as advertising since he makes the money on the booze TMO doesn't have an overhead to pay for shows cover charge takes care of acts. so it's all money going in circle that may make books look good but in the end it's just going from one place to another without adding at any point.

Do you work for the company? You seem to know alot about the inner workings, but let's look at this and discuss....
1) "TMO doesn't Vic Latino does, so it doesn't count as advertising since he makes the money on the booze" --- making money on the booze? What point were you trying to make. What does booze have to do with the advertising?
2) "TMO doesn't have an overhead to pay for shows cover charge takes care of acts". ----Sounds to me like they're saving alot of money and getting alot of exposure in front of the huge crowds that turn out at Whitehouse.
3) "it's all money going in circle that may make books look good but in the end it's just going from one place to another without adding at any point. ---- I think you're wrong about adding, I have to give the Morey's a little credit, if it wasn't adding dollars, I don't think they would do it. Making the books look good? Using your scenario, they're bringing big acts to Whitehouse, they're covering all of their costs, it sounds great on the radio, they're getting alot of exposure in front of listeners and potential listeners, they're selling sponsorships and I'm sure entertaining clients at these shows. I don't know about you PSA Man, but I call that Good Business.

I'm close enough to know and see beyond the facade. That's all I need to say. Regardless of what I say and or can prove and whether you believe or not it doesn't make a difference. So once again believe what you will I know what is going on and eventually you will know it too, then you'll come out of your denial. Or are you some one who needs TMO station to look good in the public eye? That was a rhetorical question, no need to answer cause I won't spend anymore time on a "worthless" point.

Ok, I got it, you said it all "DISGRUNTLED EX-EMPLOYEE"
No need to respond.

 

[PSA_Man]

I did not know WhiteHouse was a TMO owned business? Damn , if they do they have their hands in everything. Newspaper, restaurants, radio and now your saying nightclubs.. No Wonder why everyone hates them, they are cornering the nightlife on Long Island. I am not a hater so Kudos to the Morey's for holding it down. I think his name is Jed, what a work-a-holic.

TMO doesn't Vic Latino does, so it doesn't count as advertising since he makes the money on the booze TMO doesn't have an overhead to pay for shows cover charge takes care of acts. so it's all money going in circle that may make books look good but in the end it's just going from one place to another without adding at any point.

Do you work for the company? You seem to know alot about the inner workings, but let's look at this and discuss....
1) "TMO doesn't Vic Latino does, so it doesn't count as advertising since he makes the money on the booze" --- making money on the booze? What point were you trying to make. What does booze have to do with the advertising?
2) "TMO doesn't have an overhead to pay for shows cover charge takes care of acts". ----Sounds to me like they're saving alot of money and getting alot of exposure in front of the huge crowds that turn out at Whitehouse.
3) "it's all money going in circle that may make books look good but in the end it's just going from one place to another without adding at any point. ---- I think you're wrong about adding, I have to give the Morey's a little credit, if it wasn't adding dollars, I don't think they would do it. Making the books look good? Using your scenario, they're bringing big acts to Whitehouse, they're covering all of their costs, it sounds great on the radio, they're getting alot of exposure in front of listeners and potential listeners, they're selling sponsorships and I'm sure entertaining clients at these shows. I don't know about you PSA Man, but I call that Good Business.

I'm close enough to know and see beyond the facade. That's all I need to say. Regardless of what I say and or can prove and whether you believe or not it doesn't make a difference. So once again believe what you will I know what is going on and eventually you will know it too, then you'll come out of your denial. Or are you some one who needs TMO station to look good in the public eye? That was a rhetorical question, no need to answer cause I won't spend anymore time on a "worthless" point.

Ok, I got it, you said it all "DISGRUNTLED EX-EMPLOYEE"
No need to respond.

Incorrect! not lucky enough!

 

[WKRPJUNKIE]

Like a bunch of lil kids bickering back and fourth... At the end of the day someone is making Money off of commercials and events at Whitehouse, I doubt its for S%$%s and Giggles. Now back to radio and whatever it takes to keep it alive. Whether you agree or disagree The Moreys have been doing radio for a while, and no matter what anyone says it must be profitable if they continue to operate. Go Get em Jed..


Big Lou

 

[herethere]

What a shame this all is.

Everyone who enjoys or compliments TMO is marked as a plant, while everyone who criticizes is either a disgruntled employee or an disgruntled ex-employee. Knowing how these boards work, there's probably both of those things, plus outside radio people who judge by listening or don't understand the dollars and cents...what a mess.

Whether an ex-TMO'er, current employee, a critic or anything else, the fact is that Party is only second to WLNG in serving the community. If it's Vic programming, or whomever, let's remember the PD and MD is actually generating the log from Ronkonkoma, versus receiving it from a corporate headquarters, making Party a true representative of what Long Islanders want, getting the info straight from the horse's mouth. On top of that, this radio station seemingly has more live appearances than the rest of the Island's stations put together. If you were willing, you could probably meet the entire airstaff in person in under 5 days. These little things that have been outmoded elsewhere are still standard practice at TMO.

Unfortunately the problems for this station will never cease. This niche format, of which I am a fan, is unworkable. The music dance fans love is unfamiliar to casual listeners and pop/ hip-hop music frustrates the dance fans. Swing it edgy and you lose soccermom. Swing it pop and the Jonathan Peters fans throw in a CD or mp3. The early Party under Skywalker (and Vic) was aggressive in playing dance, seemingly unconcerned with the Arbs. But since Sky left for KTU, this station has been constantly swinging back and forth between pop and club, with a measure of "channel-casting" to boot. Listeners have never had a chance to stick with this station, so hopefully Vic and his team have settled on a mix. Sadly, it's going to take a year or two of stability to lock anybody in to Party again.

Also, while I am a Queens resident, I spend a fair amount of time out on the East End, and I get to hear Party about 3-4 times a month. While I cannot say what the station sounds like everyday, I have to say that in my few listens as of late the Vic morning show has been a little lackluster. I am certainly not around often, but the few Vic and Goldapper shows feel a little unfocused and underdeveloped.

Please understand that I am rooting for this station in a major way. I am a dance fan and I wholeheartedly support local radio. What I hope is that the talent here isn't getting either too comfortable in (what I presume to be) a relaxed setting, looking at the ratings and get disheartened, reading this board and feeling insulted, or worst of all taking their air shifts for granted. They all probably have 10 jobs in the company and are certainly run out on the street, so the exhaustion level is a given, but that morning show IMHO needs to be shot out of a cannon every day. The rest of the staffers have weak moments too, as the midday host feels awfully scripted and Andre's replacement in the afternoon has many rigid moments. Even Nikki at Nite, who is the most polished after Vic, seems a little off-center and rushed...and remember I base this on only a few monthly listens, but then again, my superiors aircheck people and base their decisions on talent on about a minute's worth of material. What's even tougher is the fact that listeners use even less when deciding whether to stay with or tune out.

After the monumental disintegration of WBEA, I look to TMO and Party 105 to stay around and succeed as a voice of and for the community. The island needs more than NYC stations bleeding in. The 101.5 simu helps but it all comes down to the product. If the talent here gets laser-focused yet enjoys themselves on the air, like Leo G., Sky and a younger Vic did, if the promotions department stays on target , if sales keeps the spots rolling in (I have to ask, how do their other clients feel about Whitehouse? That must be a point of constant contention with the other clubs), AND if they can settle on one identity and stay with it, there's no reason that Party can't be a local and successful fixture.

 

[TonySantiago]

Herethere....great answer!

Today's sound of Party won't please everyone. Would I like to hear more cutting edge dance like it was, even as recent as Andre? Yes. But I do know (and is what I've been telling fans of Pulse 87 that are upset about the amount of pop/R&B in there) that whatever it takes for a format to work when it comes to the bottom line ($$$$$), then we'll deal with it. Though my fears are about the "leans" whereas it may swing in one direction and void out certain listeners in the process and looking out for the dance music fans, that is a concern that I do have (as well as with Pulse 87).

In that sense, let me throw it over to radioli....do you want my dollars? Sure you do..any advertiser does. I won't know about your business if the music I'm tuning in for gets under-represented. Maybe I don't really matter in your scheme since your concern is about making as much money possible with whoever you can get (which...yeah, you're a business, understandable). But if there are plenty others like me that maybe won't tune in as much (I can actually get Party on 105.3 in The Bronx...live VERY high up with LI in the clear) then it also backhandedly loses potential clientele for you. I don't know your business, but with my income...you'd WANT me!

Regarding Vic, I have heard his show here as well as 'KTU, as well as when he was in Orlando on 95.3 Party back in 2000 or so. My take....he's an 8PM guy, not a morning person. As much as I didn't like 'KTU, when Vic had his show on at 8PM there...THAT WORKED! He was able to be somewhat more edgier (as one could be with 'KTU) with music selections than the entire day. If anything, hearing "Vic Latino's Neighborhood" is actually kinda weird. He's his own guy...he doesn't need a "team" unless it's a remixer doing his/her thing. But most important with Vic...it was the DANCE MUSIC that got me hooked; he knows it since I have spoken with him in the past. Like I had said, if you HAVE to play a little "pop" or "R&B" and in Party's case...some "hip-hop" since you no longer have a Blaze 101.7, that is actually understandable. But the Latin music????

Correct me if I am wrong here...but is there a largely significant Latino population that far out that makes for a large "blip"? (I know about Brentwood, Wyandanch and Riverhead has Latinos there.) I mean, in that sense, you have "Fiesta". As a Latino myself, I won't shuffle over to a "Fiesta" because I heard a song on Party 105. If I want Latino music, I'd go "Fiesta"..for dance, Party 105.3. Simple. And understandably, I could see an uproar (negative) on Fiesta fans if the latest Paul Van Dyk track went onto rotation.

We all come from different perspectives on this, and to that I always love a good argument...keeps me on my toes in the event I forgot or overlooked something. But on topic, Andre on Pulse 87 is great! Though lately I've been getting concerned about the rotation there.

 

[lalumia]

I spin at The Bunkhouse in Sayville,,a gay club with plenty of straights coming in since advertising on WBLI,right in the heart of Party's listening area, and I can tell you, the Party mix reflects the area perfectly; the reaction to house just isn't there as it was years ago(on the dance floor anyway),all the various genders, colors and orientations call out for the new r&b/pop hybrids like the Danity Kane and Pussycat Dolls,and the reggaeton/latin/pitbull/don omar tracks..
Vic is right on track with the music; as to the morning show, yes, it does need some color!....Vic has my # whenever he's ready!

 

[WKRPJUNKIE]

So I woke up early this morning to listen to party 105 online. I also listened to some other stations in the Long Island market. Wow, you guys are very critical on these boards. I agree that Vic Latino does sound different from when he was on evenings, but after listening to the rest of the local market his, as you guys put it 'Lack Lustre' show is still better sounding than the rest of the market. I just wish Jed would spend some money marketing this show and station, my own cousin that lives in Patchogue Long Island heard of Party 105 but did not know Vic was on the air and as a matter of fact he did not even call it WDRE he called it WXXP.

PS. The mix of music was amazing, very mass appeal and I only heard one Latin song in Rotation I think it was No Te VEo by Pitbill, which doesn't make me as a listener think they are going Latino as Tony said in a previous post. Z100 even plays some reggaeton I think I heard Yo Voy a few times by Zion and Leonard, I think thats the group.

Big Lou

 

[lalumia]

No te Veo is by Casa De Leones, big reaction record at The Bunkhouse;
and reaction is what is missing from the morning show, when it comes to reactions and responses, no one tops Vic(who grew up in Ronkonkoma and visited me in the Record Connection more than once and more than three times to do some brain picking with "Yoda"),but he needs someone there to throw some 'red meat' into the cage, that's what's not happening and that's what's needed to make the show all it could be with the magnetic master Vic at the helm

 

[letmethinkaboutit]

I spin at The Bunkhouse in Sayville,,a gay club with plenty of straights coming in since advertising on WBLI,right in the heart of Party's listening area, and I can tell you, the Party mix reflects the area perfectly; the reaction to house just isn't there as it was years ago(on the dance floor anyway),all the various genders, colors and orientations call out for the new r&b/pop hybrids like the Danity Kane and Pussycat Dolls,and the reggaeton/latin/pitbull/don omar tracks..
Vic is right on track with the music; as to the morning show, yes, it does need some color!....Vic has my # whenever he's ready!

Can you ever make a post without self-promotion? In the post below you referred to yourself as Yoda: I'm not sure if that is scary or funny.