I don't think you can make that assumption. Popular culture isn't always based on vocal delivery. There are lots of other factors. Looking at social media, I saw a lot of comments from people who saw Beyonce as kind of a country carpetbagger, without any real desire to reach out to country fans.
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I don't think you can make that assumption. Popular culture isn't always based on vocal delivery. There are lots of other factors. Looking at social media, I saw a lot of comments from people who saw Beyonce as kind of a country carpetbagger, without any real desire to reach out to country fans.
From what I understand, the label stopped promoting it to country radio. I assume PDs -- of individual stations or groups -- aren't 100 percent required to march in lockstep with the major labels, that they could continue to play the record if their listeners were telling them they liked it. But this station, and its sister stations elsewhere in VT and NH, all pulled "Texas Hold 'Em" on the very same day. I'm sure TheBigA can elaborate on the machinations of country radio and Big Music further.
The label had two interests: To get in the country chart in order to qualify for awards, and to drive interest in album sales. Once the album was released and debuted at #1 on the country chart, the mission had been accomplished, and the label promo staff moved on to other things. There really was no listener passion for this song.
But the song and album's impact on country music, outside of streaming and sales, was brief and insignificant. If the listeners had no passion for the song or "Cowboy Carter," most of the people buying and streaming it in such huge numbers must have been Beyonce fans rather than country music fans, except for the country fans who streamed them once out of curiosity.
How did "Texas Hold 'Em" do on the airplay charts in CHR, AC and urban? Was it huge on radio anywhere? And how long did that interest last? Is Beyonce still expected to win awards next year for this project? On what basis?
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Not really. Top 10 in Top 40. It still gets recurrent airplay in Urban/R&B. I don't expect her to get nominations in any country awards even though she qualifies.
I'm seeing more interest in the Shaboozey song mentioned earlier in this thread. He's hired an indie promo team to work the song to country radio, and it's just outside the Top 30.
Yeah, I see it edging up the airplay chart, just outside the top 30 in today's Mediabase update. It definitely sounds more country than the Beyonce single. Maybe it goes Top 15, but you never know. There certainly seems to be an appetite for this sort of rhythm-heavy countryish pop, especially among the 20-something Nashville bachelorette party types that seem to be doing a lot of the streaming. That said, CHR interloper Post Malone has a true genre-defying monster on his (and Morgan Wallen's) hands in "I Had Some Help." Is it cynical of me to wonder if his being white might have something to do with that?
The difference between Post and Beyonce is his love of country is authentic, and the fans can see it.
He loves country music, he knows country music, and he lets it show, as he did with Reba on the ACMs.
Agree. In that way, he's like Jelly Roll. But how are Shaboozey's country bonafides? It was the Shaboozey single that I was making the comparison to.
i wonder how many country stations had listeners request the beyonce song, regardless of wether they had it/didnt have it/would play it/wouldnt play it.
I havent had one single request for it here and my listeners love country. would they like it if i played it? Some. Would some hate it? Oh yeah. Would some have no idea who Beyonce is? A few.
I havent had one single request for it here and my listeners love country. would they like it if i played it? Some. Would some hate it? Oh yeah. Would some have no idea who Beyonce is? A few.
When the Mediabase country airplay chart is published, Shaboozey will have his first Top 30 song on country radio.
It's already a huge hit in streaming, and is Top 5 on the Billboard Hot 100:
www.countryinsider.com
This song is accomplishing more than the Beyonce song.
It's already a huge hit in streaming, and is Top 5 on the Billboard Hot 100:
Shaboozey Continues To Dominate Country Streaming.
Shaboozey has the top country track on U.S. Shazam, Spotify and YouTube charts this week with “A Bar Song (Tipsy).” Morgan Wallen continues to have two albums in the Top
This song is accomplishing more than the Beyonce song.
It's growing on me. I could do without the processed, buzzy vocal it starts out with, but that's been a thing in pop for years and this is not the first time the gimmick has been used in country. But at its core, it's 10 times more country than "Texas Hold 'Em" could ever hope to be. The traditionalists hate it, of course, but there's room for just about everything on country radio these days. We'll see how long that lasts.When the Mediabase country airplay chart is published, Shaboozey will have his first Top 30 song on country radio.
It's already a huge hit in streaming, and is Top 5 on the Billboard Hot 100:
Shaboozey Continues To Dominate Country Streaming.
Shaboozey has the top country track on U.S. Shazam, Spotify and YouTube charts this week with “A Bar Song (Tipsy).” Morgan Wallen continues to have two albums in the Top
This song is accomplishing more than the Beyonce song.
Instruments are a big part of what makes it sound country to me.
I was listening to a classic country station in the car and there was a really, really sad steel guitar. That's a big part of it.
Not that I want music to be sad, but it's a factor.
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That's how Country radio works in general. Songs rise up and drop off the airplay charts incredibly quickly.
My purchase of Beyonce's new CD was for her faithful remake of The Beatles (Paul McCartney's) song "Blackbird".
Billboard is predicting a Grammy nomination.
That's why she made the album, or at least why her label green-lighted it, when you come right down to it. Awards mean sales, not only of that album but of her entire catalog.
Are the Country Grammys voted on the everyone who votes for all categories? If she gets a Grammy how many folks will vote for her just because they recognize the name from her pop days. That would be like me voting for a Rap or Hip Hop artist. I don't listen so I would vote for the names I have heard of before.
One of my redneck relatives* has said she feels Beyonce is being forced onto Country in the name of diversity. If you are "good" country will accept your tunes. Darius Rucker is black and has had a major hits in country.
Win a CMA or ACM you have accomplished something in Country.
*BTW She is a Darus Rucker fan.
IMHO if Beyonce's collaborative efforts with Dolly Parton churns out a couple of more hits she will never want to go back to pop.
One of my redneck relatives* has said she feels Beyonce is being forced onto Country in the name of diversity. If you are "good" country will accept your tunes. Darius Rucker is black and has had a major hits in country.
Win a CMA or ACM you have accomplished something in Country.
*BTW She is a Darus Rucker fan.
IMHO if Beyonce's collaborative efforts with Dolly Parton churns out a couple of more hits she will never want to go back to pop.
Here's what the rules say:
So I guess it's the honor system. By ''fields'' they probably mean performance, songwriting, and production.
The fact is Texas Hold 'Em charted in multiple genres, so the record isn't restricted to country.