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Chad Benson Show on KRLD

BTW RadioInsight says Will Cain will air at 7PM. Inside Radio says it will air at 7AM. I suspect Lance is right.


It would be crazy for KRLD to break up its morning news block with a syndicated talk show.
 
I'm sure Will Cain is really slated for 7pm. That 7 o'clock hour had been all-news as well. But since it comes after the 3-7pm PM Drive hours, it seems KRLD is scheduling a talk show there too.

I just don't understand how KRLD management can put pro-Republican conservative talk on a station that identifies as All-News. If the budget says you have to cut back the news hours, why not use Dave Ramsey (which the station runs at night) and CBS Eye on The World (which all Audacy stations have easy access to). Someone earlier said John Batchelor leans conservative too. But that's a small part of Eye on The World. It's mostly about international news stories and author interviews.

It's hard to find non-conservative syndicated talk these days. But Ramsey, Eye and Our American Stories with Lee Habeeb are used by other stations trying to avoid overly partisan talk. Don't the folks at KRLD know this?
 
It's hard to find non-conservative syndicated talk these days.
There are straight news shows like Gordon Deal or America In The Morning, but they're meant to run in early morning, not mid-day. It's strange that there are lots of those kinds of shows for public stations, but none for commercial. It doesn't have to be liberal talk. There are lots of other things to talk about. Somehow KFI manages to do it.
 
Mr. Cain's existing show on Fox News Digital is live at noon ET and fed by Westwood One at 3pm ET, so 7pm would make much more sense.

I just don't understand how KRLD management can put overtly conservative talk on a station that identifies as All-News.
Does KRLD still identify as all-news? There's quite a few talk stations that use "Newsradio" in their moniker. WBAL and KDKA come to mind.
 
From the above article:



Who are they kidding? They all say the same thing about the same stuff.

This guy is a washed up Hollywood actor who found a new career preaching to the converted.

But yes he was born in the Dallas area and went to UT. A long time ago. I doubt this will be a Dallas-specific show.
I can’t name a successful conservative talk station off the top of my head this guy is even on. KRLD is really shooting for third or fourth rate talent.
 
with Will Cain's show now added, i wonder when Rick Roberts end up getting picked up by KRLD if he's still in the Dallas Market waiting for a new radio home after WBAP fired him.

also i wonder how long until Cumulus flips KLIF Or iHeart Flips KFXR to Newsradio doing nothing but all news all day with KLRD becoming "Newstalk" instead of Newsradio.
 
also i wonder how long until Cumulus flips KLIF Or iHeart Flips KFXR to Newsradio doing nothing but all news all day with KLRD becoming "Newstalk" instead of Newsradio.

Nope. Cumulus does news on WBAP. iHeart needs to get its talk shows cleared in Dallas. Nobody is going to fill the news void. The demo is too old.
 
Tuning in to KRLD a few minutes ago (7:21pm CT), and I can confirm that Will Cain is on the air. The initial news reports didn't mention when the station would start carrying the show, so I wanted to fill this info for you.
 
I listened to about 5 minutes of Cain’s political jibberish and changed the station. Probably for good this time. It isn’t just the conservative talk. I really don’t want to hear somebody like Mike Malloy go after the “Bush Crime Family” either. When I listen to a news station I want to hear the news. Not some overaged frat boy shouting his opinion.
 
So, an honest question…what makes news not work on KRLD, but it seems to work okay on WBBM in Chicago? I know the markets are a bit different, but it seems we already have an incredible amount of conservative talk stations here. I work from home and no longer have a commute, but pre-pandemic, I used to listen to the news on KRLD quite often on my way to work.
 
So, an honest question…what makes news not work on KRLD, but it seems to work okay on WBBM in Chicago?

Depends on what you mean by "not work." It was working as a format just fine for many years, and then circumstances changed. The same could be said about WCBS-AM in NY. Also all-news on AM. A few years ago, they started doing play-by-play sports.

What changed? The same thing that changed at music stations, causing them to drop live DJs from mid-days and nights: The lack of advertising to cover the cost of the staff. Perhaps that's not as big a problem in Chicago or San Francisco. But news is more expensive than local DJs or syndicated talk. So they replace expensive programming with lower cost programming because the advertising doesn't cover the more expensive programming in that time period. Perhaps at one time, a station could afford to lose money in overnights or other times because they made so much in mornings. That also seems to have changed.

This is particularly a problem for Audacy, because they don't have their own syndicated talk service, as does Cumulus and iHeart. So they have to go outside the company to cover the daypart, something they prefer not to do.

The bad part of this is running conservative talk damages the credibility of the news operation. Primarily because it's not just conservative talk in the traditional sense, but rather just pro-Trump talk. We've seen how this has hurt ratings for KTAR in Phoenix. There's a way to do conservative talk that isn't politically one-sided, but they would have to do it locally, as at KFI in LA or WLW in Cincinnati. Apparently that's not an option for KRLD. But it will have an effect because people who want unbiased news aren't going to listen to a station that only takes one side.
 
So, an honest question…what makes news not work on KRLD, but it seems to work okay on WBBM in Chicago? I know the markets are a bit different, but it seems we already have an incredible amount of conservative talk stations here. I work from home and no longer have a commute, but pre-pandemic, I used to listen to the news on KRLD quite often on my way to work.
Assuming that you meant, what makes all-news not work on KRLD, I gave quite a bit of thought to this question. I've wondered the same thing about Houston, but I can come up with a pat answer for that one: iHeart just didn't want to do all-news and forced KTRH into the same framework as many of its other talk stations. Certainly cheaper that way. But that doesn't apply to KRLD. For KRLD, every theory I came up with, I could find a counterexample or some other theory to invalidate it. Here are some of them:

1) The original CBS all-news stations developed in the late 1960s, when radio news was more of a place you went for the latest news, because local TV news still had relatively limited technological capabilities. It's hard to pin down when KRLD went to all-news; I could find that it had excised music from its daytime schedule in 1978 but still ran music of some sort from 8 pm into overnights. By 1985, it was all-news. (At KTRH, where Larry King was on overnights, we often thought, "thank goodness we're not doing all-news overnight like KRLD"; i.e., it allowed us to focus most of our resources on higher-listening hours.) All that said, though, someone who was, say, 30 years old in 1968, and who still had fairly fluid listening habits, is going to be older than 85 today. At some point, the listener base doesn't carry over any more; listening habits also harden.

2) Those CBS stations switched to all-news 24/7; KRLD did it more gradually. "All news some of the time" generally doesn't work. But KRLD eventually got there (with the exception of sports). I doubt that historical circumstances in 1968, or 1985, influence much listening today. Moreover, KCBS in San Francisco did try "all news some of the time" in the 1980s. Eventually it went back to all-news, with apparently little lasting damage. So scratch that theory.

3) The CBS stations were in more-established metropolitan areas which had longstanding broad areas of influence; Dallas (as well as Houston) was still growing, with business, cultural, and governmental institutions trying to catch up in sophistication and competence. "Chicagoland" is a concept; "Dallasland" really isn't. But at some point, those institutions do catch up.

4) KRLD wasn't owned by CBS, at least not at first. But Metromedia appeared to have a solid commitment to the station, even buying the Texas State Network, probably more of an aid to networking sports coverage, but, still. By the 1980s, it had a pretty strong news image in the state.

So much for all that. I suspect the real answer is simple: all-news stations can't get the quality of advertiser that they used to get (that's painfully obvious on KCBS these days; WTOP* is an exception due to its location), thus can't get the revenue, meaning costs have to be cut, and at some point that road leads to cheaper alternatives such as talk. It sucks, but one hopes that at least the news blocks can get back with minimized damage. That's not the case at KTRH in Houston, where even the newscasts are politically biased, and thus increasingly out of step with the Houston metro, instead appealing to dead-end demographics, but KRLD should still have enough time and reputation left to put in guardrails against that sort of thing. Right now, there could just also be local management that's making bad decisions - Audacy in San Francisco went through that a few years ago, though it didn't affect KCBS much at the time - when results aren't as predicted, changes could be reversed.

(* Yes, I know WTOP isn't a historically CBS O&O. But it shares many other attributes with those stations.)
 
What changed? The same thing that changed at music stations, causing them to drop live DJs from mid-days and nights: The lack of advertising to cover the cost of the staff. Perhaps that's not as big a problem in Chicago or San Francisco. But news is more expensive than local DJs or syndicated talk. So they replace expensive programming with lower cost programming because the advertising doesn't cover the more expensive programming in that time period. Perhaps at one time, a station could afford to lose money in overnights or other times because they made so much in mornings. That also seems to have changed.
The quality of advertiser has also changed. At various times, the KCBS airwaves were clogged with mortgage-refinancer, tax-advisor, erectile-dysfunction, medical-testing, or other spots of similarly somewhat dubious nature, probably bought on the cheap.
The bad part of this is running conservative talk damages the credibility of the news operation. Primarily because it's not just conservative talk in the traditional sense, but rather just pro-Trump talk. We've seen how this has hurt ratings for KTAR in Phoenix.
True, but the industry seems to have run out of ideas and is falling back on formulas for short-term gain.
 
The quality of advertiser has also changed. At various times, the KCBS airwaves were clogged with mortgage-refinancer, tax-advisor, erectile-dysfunction, medical-testing, or other spots of similarly somewhat dubious nature, probably bought on the cheap.

The other way to handle it is with infomercials on the weekends. It looks like KRLD is sold out on both Saturday & Sunday with infomercials. So no more revenue opportunities there.

True, but the industry seems to have run out of ideas and is falling back on formulas for short-term gain.

Then again, the audience for the all news format is older than the talk audience. Not by much. But this is a way to tamp down on the 65+ demo.

There aren't a lot of other options for AM radio right now, regardless of ideas.
 
The All-News format does have a more adult-appeal. But as we see from the yearly BIA reports, it produces great billing. WTOP Washington is by far the nation's top billing station. WINS, WBBM and WCBS are in the top 10. KNX, KYW and KCBS are in the top 20. WBZ is among Boston's top billing stations and WWJ is among Detroit's top billing stations. Along with KTCK, KHKS and KRLD-FM, I'm sure KRLD is also among Dallas' top billers too!

But as said above, it's an expensive format to do well. And for whatever reason, it struggles in the Sunbelt. Is it that too many listeners are from somewhere else with less interest in local news? If the weather is nice most of the year, you are less inclined to seek out "traffic and weather together"?

In the last decade or so, attempts were made to launch All-News stations in Atlanta and Houston on FM. They failed. Miami had an all-news station that even used call letters similar to WINS, called WINZ. It also failed. Above, Mark Roberts recounts when KTRH Houston was all-news except overnight. Gradually it was transitioned to all-talk.

KNX is the only long-term successful All-News station in the Sunbelt. Through all the decades, the format has never lasted too long where the sun shines brightly.
 
Nevermind. Audacy’s own article says she’s staying.




Overall this is Mike's best roundup of a career in radio. He's done it all. He'll be just fine when his contract wraps up with KRKD and then on the otherside of the news spectrum another's is not renewed.

It will be a reunion of sorts.
 
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and impartially dies in a diatribe of misinformation brought on by another opinion holder.

He will be fine. He's got talent.
 
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