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Conan Goes To TBS!

The Voice of Reason said:
In all fairness to Lopez, while he did complain about the cancellation of his show on ABC... considering that "Caveman" was his replacement, I can understand where the guy's coming from. That show (Caveman) lasted what...four episodes before it was cancelled?Lopez's sitcom was on the air for several years and it was funny.

Two-part response:

1. I got "Cavemen" clocked at about two months before becoming extinct. Media reports suggest the writer's strike caused the show's demise.

2. I don't think we will be seeing "Cavemen" marathons on Nick At Nite any time soon...
 
KentBrockman said:
With cable/satellite's penetration numbers being so huge, why should a network still do business with local affiliates instead of going direct to cable?

Ask the Comcast people. The worst rated show on NBC still gets better numbers than the best rated show on USA or any of the biggest cable networks. This is 30 years after cable became commonplace. Why? Habit. Read through this board. A lot of Conan fans simply couldn't imagine anything beyond Fox. That's not unusual. That same mentality applies to internet usage as well. The assumption is that given the choice between internet radio and broadcast, listeners will chose internet. Yet with 67% broadband penetration, and most in-work listening coming from the computer, most people still choose their familiar broadcast station, via stream, over all the other less familiar choices.
 
I wonder if they could work out a deal whereas they could air it first run on TBS and then syndicate it, maybe like a day behind (or a week behind or whatever) to local stations? Remember in the early days of FOX how, "It's Gary Shandling's Show" was aired on Showtime then later in the week on FOX.
 
Mark said:
Remember in the early days of FOX how, "It's Garry [sic] Shandling's Show" was aired on Showtime then later in the week on FOX.

If I recall correctly, Shandling's show was well established on Showtime before it started airing on Fox. I just posted a day's worth of listings in the Classic TV subforum on a day in 1988 when Fox aired a Showtime comedy special starring Shandling, which had originally aired in 1985.
 
Mark said:
I wonder if they could work out a deal whereas they could air it first run on TBS and then syndicate it, maybe like a day behind (or a week behind or whatever) to local stations? Remember in the early days of FOX how, "It's Gary Shandling's Show" was aired on Showtime then later in the week on FOX.

They don't need to, and the topical nature would make it fairly unattractive as a syndicated property under that kind of proposal.
 
DToTheJ said:
Mark said:
Remember in the early days of FOX how, "It's Garry [sic] Shandling's Show" was aired on Showtime then later in the week on FOX.
If I recall correctly, Shandling's show was well established on Showtime before it started airing on Fox. I just posted a day's worth of listings in the Classic TV subforum on a day in 1988 when Fox aired a Showtime comedy special starring Shandling, which had originally aired in 1985.
I believe both of you are confusing It's Garry Shandling's Show on FOX with his later Larry Sanders Show on Showtime. Shandling's own self-titled show was on FOX on Sunday evenings in the late '80s, while Sanders came sometime later.
 
To be clear, I'm not against Conan going to cable just I wish it wasn't TBS for reasons that I've previously stated. I get that the Fox affiliates not wanting to take a chance on Conan after what had happen with Tonight and also over saturated the market with late night talk in the process. It seem to me at the time that Fox was where he was most likely do his next show at. I never thought that his next home would be TBS.
 
firepoint525 said:
Shandling's own self-titled show was on FOX on Sunday evenings in the late '80s, while Sanders came sometime later.

... which, I believe, aired in syndication. In New York, "Larry Sanders" aired on WPIX.
 
TheBigA said:
KentBrockman said:
With cable/satellite's penetration numbers being so huge, why should a network still do business with local affiliates instead of going direct to cable?

Ask the Comcast people. The worst rated show on NBC still gets better numbers than the best rated show on USA or any of the biggest cable networks. This is 30 years after cable became commonplace. Why? Habit. Read through this board. A lot of Conan fans simply couldn't imagine anything beyond Fox. That's not unusual. That same mentality applies to internet usage as well. The assumption is that given the choice between internet radio and broadcast, listeners will chose internet. Yet with 67% broadband penetration, and most in-work listening coming from the computer, most people still choose their familiar broadcast station, via stream, over all the other less familiar choices.

I work in an office with about 150 employees, and there is no policy against using the internet - many of us need to use if for work, and our HR and Finance systems are internet based. But the IT department has pleaded with us to please not stream anything for more than a few minutes because it uses too much bandwidth. If you want to listen to music in your office, they suggest you bring in some other source - ipod, a CD player, radio, or whatever.
 
Conan could have gone to the worst piece of crap station you could imagine. True fans will just be glad that he's back. If you have that much of a problem with him being on TBS, than just record the show and watch it at 12:30 right after you watch Leno. You can pretend that he's still on NBC. It will be just like old times again ;-)
 
Just to clear it up for everyone, Garry Shandling had two cable shows.

The first was called It's Garry Shandling's Show and it was on Showtime from 1986 to 1990. I thought it was hysterical.

Article from Wikipedia on it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Garry_Shandling%27s_Show

The show was later picked up by Fox Broadcasting Company from 1988 to 1990 as part of its Sunday night lineup; FOX began airing the show from the beginning, but due to longer seasons for network shows versus cable, had caught up by the time the show left Fox in 1989.

Then later on Shandling had another show on HBO called Larry Sanders. I didn't like this one as much but it was more successful

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Larry_Sanders_Show
 
Skynet74 said:
Conan could have gone to the worst piece of crap station you could imagine...

And as it turns out, he isn't going to be on MTV after all. ::)
 
Skynet74 said:
Conan could have gone to the worst piece of crap station you could imagine. True fans will just be glad that he's back. If you have that much of a problem with him being on TBS, than just record the show and watch it at 12:30 right after you watch Leno. You can pretend that he's still on NBC. It will be just like old times again ;-)

Well, back in the old days we didn't have to deal with some huge pop-up graphic blocking the subtitles that you're trying to read. Or that same graphic reminding us that we're too dumb to check out the tv listings to see what's next. ;D

Welcome to television in 2010! Ain't it just peachy. :D
 
1069_KIFR said:
I'll just cancel my TV Guide subscription!!! That'll show 'em!

With networks like Hallmark and TVLAND changing their schedules seemingly everyday print tv listings whether in the local newspaper or in that crappy waterdowned version of tv guide are obsolete. at least the on screen guide and even the TV Guide Network the listings are updated with-in one day.
 
Mark said:
Just to clear it up for everyone, Garry Shandling had two cable shows.

The first was called It's Garry Shandling's Show and it was on Showtime from 1986 to 1990. I thought it was hysterical.

Article from Wikipedia on it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Garry_Shandling%27s_Show

The show was later picked up by Fox Broadcasting Company from 1988 to 1990 as part of its Sunday night lineup; FOX began airing the show from the beginning, but due to longer seasons for network shows versus cable, had caught up by the time the show left Fox in 1989.

Then later on Shandling had another show on HBO called Larry Sanders. I didn't like this one as much but it was more successful

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Larry_Sanders_Show
As mentioned in the "Garry Shandling Show" article, the show also ran Sunday nights on Fox in that network's early days. And as not mentioned in the "Larry Sanders" article, that show had a short run (weekends only, I believe) in syndication a few years back but I think only lasted a year or two. I remember it aired on the cable only WB 100+ stations (now the CW+ stations) which air on cable and as digital subchannels in most cases.
 
I remember that Garry Shandling, in one of his many guest-hosting appearances on The Tonight Show, was promoting Larry Sanders, airing on (whatever cable network). Ed McMahon said, "I don't get (whatever cable network)." Shandling responded by saying, "that's okay, I don't get Star Search!" ;D
 
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