DavidEduardo said:
Which is why they played all those pop/rock tracks in the 2000s, and KIIS didn't...What's your point?
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Which is why they played all those pop/rock tracks in the 2000s, and KIIS didn't...What's your point?
justpassingthough said:
There were literally tons of them, but just off the top of my head...(some of these I think received very limited low rotation airplay, but most didn't receive any)
Plain White T's/Hey There Delilah
Nickelback/Photograph
Nickelback/Someday
Nickelback/Rockstar
3 Doors Down/Let Me Go
3 Doors Down/When I'm Gone
Pink/Who Knew
Hinder/Lips Of An Angel
Daughtry/It's Not Over
Daughtry/Home
Daughtry/Over You
Puddle Of Mudd/Blurry
Creed/My Sacrifice
Creed/One Last Breath
Switchfoot/Meant To Live (not sure)
Jason Mraz/The Remedy
Jason Mraz/I'm Yours (not sure)
Coldplay/Viva La Vida
Jimmy Eat World/The Middle
Lifehouse/You And Me
Linkin Park/In The End
Linkin Park/Numb
Matchbox Twenty/Unwell
Shinedown/Second Chance
Trapt/Headstrong
Calling/Wherever You Will Go
Chad Kroeger with Josey Scott/Hero
Evanescence/Bring Me To Life (not sure)
Maroon 5/Harder To Breathe
Santana feat Alex Band/Why Don't You And I
Seether feat Amy Lee/Broken
Hoobastank/The Reason (not sure)
Green Day/Boulevard Of Broken Dreams (not sure)
Fall Out Boy/Sugar We're Goin' Down
Fall Out Boy/Dance Dance
Fray/How To Save A Life
Fray/Over My Head (Cable Car)
Fray/You Found Me
Panic At The Disco/I Write Sins Not Tragedies (not sure)
Colbie Caillat/Bubbly
Sara Bareilles/Love Song (not sure)
Kid Rock/All Summer Long
All-American Rejects/Dirty Little Secret
All-American Rejects/Move Along
All-American Rejects/It Ends Tonight
All-American Rejects/Gives You Hell (not sure)
atlantaboy said:
My point is that not only is Hispanic music preference different, but with such a majority in LA, it creates the tastes of the total market.
The fact that a song played elsewhere does not make it necessarily relevant in LA.
DavidEduardo said:
Someone posted that the reason KIIS didn't play much rock in the 2000s is because of the lack of high-quality rock product - since 95% of CHRs played tons of rock and pop/rock songs every year and boosted them into the Top 10/Top 5, IMO there was no "lack of quality" rock product
No one was posting that KIIS should've been playing more rock, just that the Wiki article explaining that their PDs avoided rock in the 2000s is true
Wow so much confusion but I can take the blame for this one 
. I was just explaining wiki is not a trusted site to get information or facts. What I mention about that comment was deleted a long time ago. When I came back in 2006 I remeber hearing Panic At The Disco, All American Rejects, Plain White T's, Colbie Caillat, and Fall Out Boy during the daytime. Right around that time KIIS would revert those songs to overnight after 12am. Also KYSR at the time was Modern AC/ Hot AC so most of those songs were played on that station. KBIG was in their confusing Rhythmic phase
. I was just explaining wiki is not a trusted site to get information or facts. What I mention about that comment was deleted a long time ago. When I came back in 2006 I remeber hearing Panic At The Disco, All American Rejects, Plain White T's, Colbie Caillat, and Fall Out Boy during the daytime. Right around that time KIIS would revert those songs to overnight after 12am. Also KYSR at the time was Modern AC/ Hot AC so most of those songs were played on that station. KBIG was in their confusing Rhythmic phaseKBIG has a RHYTHMIC phase? By the way, I have to admit that I like KBIG as they are now. They are one of the best stations in L.A., I think.
Clear Channel Los Angeles reformatted most of its stations in 2004 or 2005. KYSR stop playing currents as Mike Marino took over as PD for both KHHT and KYSR. KBIG was refomatted as 104.3 The New K B I G. Basically a bland Rhythmic AC stations kinda like what WISX 106.1 in Philly sounds like. They added Deliah back to the lineup for a breif time which was horrible. Disco Saturday Night with Mark Kriski from KTLA was one of the most popular shows from 6pm til 3am. Also Thump Radio which featured Dance music. 104.3 actually sounded better during that time verses this bland Hot AC/Adults Hits.
I meant to say "had", not has. I grew up a lot with WSTR, so I developed a love for the Hot AC sound, although during that whole time I wished for a station like the mid to late 90's KGGI and KPWR in the town I was living in.
How good was the Movin format? Did they use "set u free" by Planet Soul or any Lil Suzy or Jocelyn Enriquez tracks? I never got to hear the L.A. Movin format... I also heard that there was a "Boogie Nights" on Mega 92.3. I wonder what the LA version of that (that was copied in Phoenix until they decided to put Art Laboe at that time) was like?
How good was the Movin format? Did they use "set u free" by Planet Soul or any Lil Suzy or Jocelyn Enriquez tracks? I never got to hear the L.A. Movin format... I also heard that there was a "Boogie Nights" on Mega 92.3. I wonder what the LA version of that (that was copied in Phoenix until they decided to put Art Laboe at that time) was like?
Movin was good during the first year but that station was mostly created to get Rick Dees back on the air after his departure from KIIS. The rest of the airstaff was nothing really to get hyped over. That midday girl was horrible Tera Bonilla I think she use to be a cruise ship entertainer. She was the second jock added to Movin after Rick Dees. None of the jocks even said goodbye on the last day. Even Ricks show was a recording. When Movin first started it was great I remeber hearing Planet Soul, Daft Punk, Janet Jackson, Jennifer Lopez, Cathy Dennis, BlackBox, and Robin S on the station. They had a mixshow at 12noon and mixes on friday and saturday night which were great. Then after a year it got kinda wonky playing rhythmic oldies music in the mix. After a year of playing that they added 80's New Wave Music into the mix Labor Day Weekend 2008. The same guy who was hired to program Movin was the same guy who program Mega. Now hes in San Fransico programing KISQ which sounds better than KHHT. I think Boogie Nights aired on KBIG from 7 til 10pm right before Thump Radio and Deliah. Not really sure about Mega 92.3 I was here for the summer when they flipped to KHHT only shows I remeber on Mega was Between The Sheets with Smokey Robinson and George Lopez morning show.
That's right. Boogie Nights in Phoenix was copied from KBIG. Except in Phoenix, it was on Mega 104.3 KAJM the Old School station (rhythmic oldies format) from 7-12. It was all good until they decided Art Laboe would be "better" every weekday from 7-12. That didn't last long. Movin KMVA Phoenix came, lasted a while, then went from rhythmic ac to a hot ac that still played Warren G and Keith Sweat and stuff like that as back in the day double plays every hour before they flipped and came back as a pure hot ac over Christmas (which has now evolved into a pure chr format with nothing older than "Just Dance" by Lady Gaga in rotation). In total, they have about 71 or 75 songs in rotation. No specialty shows, mixshows, or anything. Just current hits.
I never knew that Movin Los Angeles was around even since 2008.
I never knew that Movin Los Angeles was around even since 2008.
Yeah it signed off in the spring of 2009. Now its Exitos 93.9. They sometimes play english music in the mix mostly one or two english songs per hour. Movin tired to snatch up KHHT listeners. During their last rating period they actually were ahead of KHHT and KCBS. Not that much of a wobble once the LMA began. Not sure if their cume is higher with the new format but hey cant beat 7 million a year for a lease. I remeber streaming KMVA sometimes from my computer. That station went the same route WMVN did in St. Louis after the Rhythmic Dance hits faded it just morphed into a Hot AC with a Rhythmic lean. Once KBIG flipped to MYFM people were hoping that KMVN would fill the void. Only thing they did was make a weak verison on Disco Saturday Night. Eventhough none of them were sucessful great radio stations sad enough that was when the fun in Los Angeles radio died
I can agree with the fact that the fun died for the most part. As I flip around, I don't get that feeling of freshness, excitement, and waiting to discover new sounds like back in the 90's - especially in mixshows. Time for me to get out of fairy tale fantasy land and let go of wishful thinking. The only thing, though, is that there's this constant hopeful possibility in the back of my head that things will change again, due to the fact that not only has L.A. had a history of fun radio, but there are also so many stations with the potential to bring back that whole fun sound, even in a modernized fashion. I guess the fact that music changed also plays a role in how much things have changed today.
I guess this is what happens when people get older - they begin to miss the past. Only difference I see with this new generation of youngsters / kids is that they are voicing that they are also not really too fond/proud of their generation of music andtune in to older/oldschool stuff... But then again, with the advancements of technology and more ways for people to voice opinions, I guess it will appear as if more people are "speaking out" on certain things now than they were when all these avenues for expressing yourself weren't available.
I do have to give KPWR and KXOL credit for trying to deliver a modernized style of how things used to be done, party style. I believe that KXOL "secretly wants to be" LA's Party Station...
I guess this is what happens when people get older - they begin to miss the past. Only difference I see with this new generation of youngsters / kids is that they are voicing that they are also not really too fond/proud of their generation of music andtune in to older/oldschool stuff... But then again, with the advancements of technology and more ways for people to voice opinions, I guess it will appear as if more people are "speaking out" on certain things now than they were when all these avenues for expressing yourself weren't available.
I do have to give KPWR and KXOL credit for trying to deliver a modernized style of how things used to be done, party style. I believe that KXOL "secretly wants to be" LA's Party Station...
atlantaboy said:
Not to beat a dead horse, because we will probably always disagree on this point, but who cares if 95% of CHR stations are playing a song? Most CHR stations are in markets that are small. KIIS has a larger cume than a chunk of the bottom CHR stations combined. Still, when it comes to compiling the charts, every station's spins get equal billing. Technically, every time KIIS spins LMFAO "Party Rock Anthem" it could be heard by potentially millions of people. When a CHR in market #231 spins "Tonight, Tonight" its heard by a few thousand people. So which is technically a bigger hit? If a tree falls in a forest....
I know I'm speaking in hyperbole here, but my point is that what gets spinned in larger markets are technically much BIGGER hits, because they're heard by much bigger audiences...
justpassingthough said:
That's why the charts today weigh the station audience size as well as number of spins to produce data that is in proportion to listeners.
justpassingthough said:
Guys, my point was the KIIS leans Rhythmic - that's it
And BTW all those huge pop/rock songs I listed were played in huge markets (as is Tonight Tonight, which is #3 on ITunes this week BTW) - I do think, after spending some time in this thread though, that KIIS has convinced radio listeners in L. A. that the only big hits are rhythmic hits, and that all the huge CHR rock and pop/rock hits of the past decade never existed, or, aparrently, are "small market hits" which lol is pretty untrue
justpassingthough said:
You do realize that KHKS/Dallas is playing Tonight Tonight 107x a week, Q102/Philadelphia is spinning Tonight Tonight 86x a week, KRBE/Houston 65x a week, WWWQ/Atlanta 66x a week, WIHT/Washington 44x a week, Z100/New York 31x a week - it's not a small market hit...(as you can tell by the fact that it's #3 on ITunes!!)
atlantaboy said:
But... those reock leaning songs were not played or only got limited play all over Latin Amerca. The point is that those songs are likely to get little or no CHR play in a market where a CHR can not be successful under any circumstances without doing very well among Hispanics. And where Hispanics, who form an absolute majority in the CHR demos, tend to set the taste for the whole market.
I take back some of what I've said about the L.A. market! As I listen to some of the mixes going on right now, I must say that LA still kinda "has it" when it comes to the dance & latin dance sound and discovering new dance hits and remixes - when it comes to mix shows! I'm loving what I'm hearing, and it's only FRIDAY night! If I was in Phoenix, our hit music station wouldn't even be mixing. KIIS LA is actually mixing straight up dance (along with a few others playing dance remixes and stuff). It may not be like the past, but I'm still loving this modernized version of that whole style and sound! Even KDAY played some (old school) euro dance and booty bass!
KAMP has the bass remix of Waka Flocka's "no hands" in regular rotation, and KGGI mixed in the bass remix of "motivation" earlier today.
KAMP has the bass remix of Waka Flocka's "no hands" in regular rotation, and KGGI mixed in the bass remix of "motivation" earlier today.
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