I think I found a way to mix it with 1 channel put bands and or artists in the playlist and it played different rock and alternative! :-{) also tried rdio don't like it.
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Pandora rocks why?
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IHeartRadio is going to stay commercial free for a few more months on their custom channels. It must be getting rather costly to offer the service completely commercial free.
Spotify has also announced plans to allow free users to continue to use Spotify free without a time limit. They have not said how much longer, but I get the impression it will be at least several months. I am not sure that is a good move. It will cost them a fortune since spotify royalties are significantly more than internet radio royalties and advertising is not covering the costs.
Spotify has also announced plans to allow free users to continue to use Spotify free without a time limit. They have not said how much longer, but I get the impression it will be at least several months. I am not sure that is a good move. It will cost them a fortune since spotify royalties are significantly more than internet radio royalties and advertising is not covering the costs.
If they do, it reminds me of siriusxm in a way!
Don't like spotify cause of Facebook I got this last fall.
Don't like spotify cause of Facebook I got this last fall.
PandoraRocks730 said:
I think Clear Channel's custom station feature may not be working out for them as much as they want everyone to think. They are just now hiring people to try to figure out how to create revenue on the stations. And the commercial free period has not made a dent in Pandora like they hoped it would. They claim Pandora has "consumer backlash" regarding advertisements, yet they have lured very few people in from Pandora. They are very worried about putting in ads that will damage the user experience. Unfortunately for them, their user experience isn't so great to start off with. Clear Channel and their partners do not know how to build great custom channels.
So true Casey nailed in the head there I like rock the cut ALT. Rock,rock nation,slippery when wet,the ALT project & classic rock channel I do like them but people would rather listen to their local station. On Facebook adfree stations have hardly have fans.
Also the channels I listed don't play all the bands that's why it's not doing well? I can't make a custom channel it will have swearing on it
PandoraRocks730 said:
The lack of censor capabilities is a problem.
Clear Channel's custom stations are powered by "The Echo Nest." Upon further use, I would say they have a lot of work to do. For one, when I ban multiple songs from one artist and don't favorite a single one, I probably don't like that artist. If I build a station on one genre which is not pop, I shouldn't get pop music. If I ban nearly every song since 2000, I probably don't want to hear new music. If I chose an artist with multiple mainstream hits and only favorite hits, I likely don't want to hear some song that were not singles. The Echo Nest fails to take any of this into noticeable consideration. I am actually not sure what it is that it does do. I have never used so many bans on a service in all my tests. Right now Iheart is playing more songs I don't like than songs I do. Maybe they are just slow at learning my tastes?
Maybe because it's not ur taste cause they run it not u? That's why I like pandora cause if there's a song I don't like I put thumbs down!
PandoraRocks730 said:
Well Pandora learns, as does Slacker when you configure the settings. You are in control on those two services. You are supposed to be in control for IHeart too. However IHeart does not appear to learn or at least not very well and they have few options to teach it. So IHeart can be good for a couple hours, but if you want a channel that you can listen to for months, they don't cut it. They don't produce quality station-like material. At least not for me.
Me either Iheartradio is used for sports and sports talk same goes with tunein and radio.com CBS company! But other than that Iheartradio lacks music.
PandoraRocks730 said:
So true!
Supposedly Echo Nest powers the custom stations in Spotify, MOG, and possibly Rdio too. Personally, I don't find any of those services have good radio features. I don't know if this is bad implementation on their part or if this is because the data created by Echo Nest isn't good. So far though I have yet to see a single good radio product using Echo Nest. They all present me more music I don't like than music that I do. Of course between these 3 services, there is no way to vote up/down a song. It appears Echo Nest can't or doesn't in these cases, take into account personal tastes. It is possible it browses your library or song history, but you can't create a true station from that.
Does anyone here like one of these services' radio feature?
Also put on the list! RADITAZ?
PandoraRocks730 said:
It seems Raditaz is powered by Echo Nest.
At this rate Pandora stock should be soaring in no time. All their competition is switching to the same engine to power their custom stations. And they are all awful! It doesn't matter how many blogs, tweets, facebook pages, etc. you search to build your station engine. Some teenage twitter queen can in theory impact what I want to hear using Echo Nest. How does that even make sense? You can't build a custom station to your tastes if it doesn't ask you what your tastes are. If you can't add more than one seed and you can't ban artists, then it is a waste of time. And if it doesn't actually learn, which it seems it doesn't, then what good is it?
Yep it seems like it is! That's why pandora is the best radio.
PandoraRocks730 said:
Upon further investigation it seems a lot of my (and no doubt others) bad experiences are fault of the service itself and not the algorithm behind it. Even so I am not going to say the algorithm works for me near as well as the one for Pandora, Slacker, or Jango. But I can't place as much blame on Echo Nest. These services simply have not made good implementations of it. Comparing some of the Echo powered services, their results while similar don't have to be according to the documentation on the Echo Nest website. There seems to be a lot of untapped power according to the API documentation. Ban artist for example, can be done. These services simply don't bother and that would make a huge impact on a stations quality.
Multiple seeds are also possible. Why don't these services take advantage of it? I have no idea.
So true Casey I agree with everything you said!
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Casey said:
Actually, Pandora is losing it's listeners.
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/pandora.com/
Doubt it will make a comeback.
and here's a program pandora uses to directly measure it's site visitors
http://www.quantcast.com/pandora.com
You are right bout that radiophilly! I do like jango I can make a channel and put the bands and or artists in their and it's a great mix for me but the swearing needs to be censored so I can listen to jango! If slacker had a huge mix of alternative and rock.
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PandoraRocks730 said:
I do have to thank you, raditaz was a great site.
What's hurting Pandora is it's "skip limit". It's got great features, and a clean site design so it's appealing. But some people will get sick of the skip limit.
Some people want that cause if they put in a cd it should be like that! Fans love that I can have it both ways.
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