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"Satellite in Trouble as HD Grows"

My I-Pod has 4580 songs on it. I guess that's not typical. :) Hey without radio how do you know what new songs you want to purchase. The days of the local record shop playing the latest tunes on loudspeakers outside the shop are long gone and record manufactures aren't stupid. Why do you think they supply free records to radio stations?
 
I.B. Iquity helpfully explained:

Do you know where the WCBS/WFAN transmitter is? It's non directional in the L.I. Sound on High Island in the Bronx. WCBS and WFAN can hardly be heard in midtown due to the steel and concrete which makes up Manhattan. I drive the West Side highway every day and when you get to 56th street at the light you can barely hear either of those stations. IBOC, especially as it's operating today won't penetrate the caverns of NYC. That is one of the reasons that WCBS and WFAN are now streaming on the internet. They do so to be heard in Manhattan. Manhattan is very different in its effect on RF than most cities. As I've said I live in a northern suburb of NYC and have no propblem with my receptor receiving any of the NY IBOCS and I've brought the radio into our shielded building on the west side and with the small loops which came with the radio listened to WADO, WNYC and WOR (All IBOC at the time) signals even though the analogue was riddled with computer generated noise. By the way I am on the first floor (street level) in a room with no exterior windows or walls.
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You are a wealth of facts. Good gracious, I didn't know all that. So THAT'S why I can't hear their HD signals. Well thank you for clearing that up! Now I'm not so mad at my BA Receptors.

Thank you, Dave!
 
----->My I-Pod has 4580 songs on it.

Uh, D-E's secret research says you are over your quota and have to erase 4,280 songs.

-----> Hey without radio how do you know what new songs you want to purchase.

How quaint, kind of charming in an old Ozzie and Harriet way.

Radio doesn't even exist for kids nowadays. I walked thru my daughter's dorm at SF State and asked 24 kids what they listened to music on. Other than a pair of clock radios, which were used for the alarms functions only (according to the kids), there was not one AM or FM radio on the dorm flow. Not one.

Everyone has digital players, headsets, and computers with external speakers.

D-E'S research is, quite simply, not credible and self serving. No person has just 300 songs in their Ipods. Add their computer hard drives and they have thousands, tens of thousands, of songs. Maybe his research is old, maybe it is purposely distorted to make his industry look less irrelevant. Since he never shows it, who knows?

Radio doesn't lead anymore.

Music placement on TV shows leads some kids, but not all.

Free downloads from record labels leads kids.

Most significantly: rips and e-mails from their friends. MP3 burners making party dubs. Friends lending CDs. That's hopw music is distributed out here in reality land. Perhaps ethnic audiences have been slower to adapt to the new technology, maybe David is trapped in his little linguistic cultural barrio that he has created.

Yes, the radio dinosaurs are groaning and moaning as if their bellies have been slashed open and their guts are spilling out.

In fact, I hear one now:
 
zumahans you are a person with a truly wonderful sensayuma.

Radio doesn't exist for my kid either, except when he needs a weather or traffic report. Then it's right back to the Ipod.
 
Cal Stymes said:
zumahans you are a person with a truly wonderful sensayuma.

Radio doesn't exist for my kid either, except when he needs a weather or traffic report. Then it's right back to the Ipod.
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Yeah, and iPods and streaming radio were huge on 9/11, and were exceptionally helpful during Hurricane Katrina.
 
Quoting zumahans: "Radio doesn't even exist for kids nowadays. I walked thru my daughter's dorm at SF State and asked 24 kids what they listened to music on. Other than a pair of clock radios, which were used for the alarms functions only (according to the kids), there was not one AM or FM radio on the dorm flow. Not one."

My kids do not listen at all to terrestrial radio - I asked them, if any of their high-school friends listen (there are about 25 of them) and not a ONE listens. They ALL have cell phones and most have iPods and a couple have Satellite Radio in their cars. With a generation of kids growing up without listening to radio, IBOC is no solution - with all the portable gadgets available and with WiMax enabling portable devices soon, nothing is going to be able to draw them back to traditional radio.

AM/FM alarm clocks are the closest to radio they get and that is only to wake up, then off it goes. That is why, AM/FM alarm clocks far out-sell HD radios.
 
----->Yeah, and iPods and streaming radio were huge on 9/11, and were exceptionally helpful during Hurricane Katrina.



A total non-sequitur. (Look it up).

Kids today do not use radio for news at all.

Broadcasters did a heroic job during the hurricane and 9/11. And that has nothing to do at all with current media usage.
 
My kids do not even like to watch the news on TV - they would rather be talking on their cell phones.
 
That's a sad description of your children. How old are they? Have they traveled? I have two young ladies, aged 19 and 21. They both attend private colleges and both listen to their radios, own I-Pods and computers, TV's etc. And both write for their school newspapers. Your description shows your children to be rather shallow. I hope they grow as they age. We don't want to totally dumb down our society for the lowest common denominator.
 
"That's a sad description of your children. How old are they? Have they traveled? I have two young ladies, aged 19 and 21. They both attend private colleges and both listen to their radios, own I-Pods and computers, TV's etc. And both write for their school newspapers. Your description shows your children to be rather shallow. I hope they grow as they age. We don't want to totally dumb down our society for the lowest common denominator."

If you are talking to me, your comments are extremely inappropriate.
 
---->That's a sad description of your children. How old are they? Have they traveled? I have two young ladies, aged 19 and 21. They both attend private colleges and both listen to their radios, own I-Pods and computers, TV's etc. And both write for their school newspapers. Your description shows your children to be rather shallow. I hope they grow as they age. We don't want to totally dumb down our society for the lowest common denominator.


No, it is an accurate description of a dorm at a university.

But nice cheap shot.

From what you write, it sounds like kids your kids are smart enough to ignore their bitter, pathetic old man.
 
Not in my daughters dorm it isn't. Don't claim to speak for the majority pal. My responses aren't personal, and one of my daughters goes to a major university in Massachusettes. Old is a relative number. As for you, after reading your ignorant inaccurate and inisulting comments you must be some young no nothing snot. But, you'll learn, just give it time.
 
----->My responses aren't personal,

Insulting people's kids is personal, bub. And inapprorpriate.

----->and one of my daughters goes to a major university in Massachusettes

Is it one of those colleges in Massachusetts that requires the applicants to spell the state correctly? I sure hope so.

---->you must be some young no nothing snot.

I certainly trust your two daughters have more manners and grace than the old crackpot signing their checks.
 
----->you must be some young no nothing snot.

I haven't felt so young since that 7-11 clerk in Illinois carded me when buying beer in my 40th year, while my wife and inlaws were watching!
 
"Insulting people's kids is personal, bub. And inapprorpriate."

I didn't arbitrarily bring up or insult your children. I made what I believed was a fair observation. If you don't like the conclusion I reached based on your comments then may I suggest, you not hold your children up as a reflection of the majority of Americas youth!!


"Is it one of those colleges in Massachusetts that requires the applicants to spell the state correctly? I sure hope so."

Oh excuse me Mr. Webster for not learning how to type in school. here's your missing e. You know what you can do with it (and yes that was an arbitrary insult).
 
"I speel it Masterchewsitts"

You want to get personal? Maybe a visit to an analyst would help you get over your definite feelings of paranoia and inadequacy. You are one sad individual and get more pathetic and juvenile with each post. At the end of the day, I still live a great life and have been able to pursue my dreams. You are obviously someone who is commonly referred to as a loser. I suppose I should pity you.

How does that work for you? Oh Mr. or Ms. Moderator, is this what you want your board to turn into?
 
Goodness gracious, please chill out! My spelling of Massachusetts was done to add some levity and a grin to an otherwise argumentative and nasty thread. It was not at all meant to be personal and none of this is that important to get so excited about.

Yes, I am pathetic and yes I am juvenile. But I draw the line with paranoia and inadequacy. I am generally not paranoid and think I am adequate for at least something. People refer to me as a loser and pity me all the time, so it does indeed work great for me if you'd like to join the ranks of those who do that. :)

Thank you for your concern and for offering to help in my moment of weakness. Someday when I am in a position to do so, I promise to return the favor and be there for you when you most need it.
 
"My spelling of Massachusetts was done to add some levity and a grin to an otherwise argumentative and nasty thread"

If I over reacted I appologize. You are correct, the level of discussion in here does go over the top.
 
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