BACKnUSSR said:
Tin Man..good one. I have not heard You Can Do Magic... I must be tuning in at the wrong times.....
Now if I still had a turntable...
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SONGS YOU'D LOVE TO HEAR ON KRTH-FM!
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Tin Man..good one. I have not heard You Can Do Magic... I must be tuning in at the wrong times.....
Now if I still had a turntable...
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shirleyschmidt
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Countrykitten said:
Welcome to the boards,
Are you saying you have the actual Album?!?
Oh dear.... that was a dead give-away.......I do indeedy. In fact, I have a good collection of ...hmmmm...older albums.
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shirleyschmidt
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I have the turntable.... We can TRULY Do Magic!
shirleyschmidt said:
Wait, that sounds kinky. ;D What do you think of Blue Hawaii ...I have that one too.
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shirleyschmidt
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Countrykitten said:
I don't think that tops my Neil Diamond, You do know Diamonds are a girl's best friend
shirleyschmidt said:Countrykitten said:
I don't think that tops my Neil Diamond, You do know Diamonds are a girl's best friend
Is this a challenge? I have the fold out Bobby Sherman record too. Does Kearth play his music.. he still lives out here right? He's a CHiP I understand.
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shirleyschmidt
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Maybe 93.9 will play Bobby Sherman ....
Challenges are always a good thing, well if you are up for the task
Seriously, does KRTH play Bobby Sherman?
Challenges are always a good thing, well if you are up for the task
Seriously, does KRTH play Bobby Sherman?
Countrykitten said:
Without doing Programming 101 again, here are a couple of things that may help you understand what is played and not played on the radio.
Requests (except at very current driven stations who look at leading edge active listeners) are not considered at all for programming. A request in a gold based station is either for something you do not play at all or one that may not have come up recently in a particular listener's tune-in time.
While there are many singles that charted, having charted in the past is not an indication of playbility (listeners want to hear the song) today.
Station playlists are mostly determined by research on a song by song basis among a sample group of listeners, not on phone calls or past chart position.
DavidEduardo said:
Thank you for Radio 101... I already get that. I have seen station research fail too.
Countrykitten said:
No, what you have probably seen is research misinterpreted or improperly implemented. Research is just a bunch of feedback from consumers... the way that data is used is the key.
DavidEduardo said:
Hey Cutey.....I am sure it was improperly done in the case I was referring to....YOU ARE RIGHT!!! Too bad it was, it was a wrong decision.
The last time I heard a Bobby Sherman song on KRTH, was WAAAAAAAAAY back in the mid 80's on a themed weekend (#1 songs off the BOSS / KHJ 30 charts). "Little Woman" from 1969 was played then. It was #1 on KHJ that year.
"Tin Man", another KHJ #1 song..was played too. I'm not sure about recent times. "You Can Do Magic", I have not heard on KRTH yet..With songs from the early 80's being aired a bit, maybe we'll hear it soon??
Boy, those weekends were great!!! Wish they'd do them again.
"Tin Man", another KHJ #1 song..was played too. I'm not sure about recent times. "You Can Do Magic", I have not heard on KRTH yet..With songs from the early 80's being aired a bit, maybe we'll hear it soon??
Boy, those weekends were great!!! Wish they'd do them again.
Time to dispell the myth that KRTH has a bigger playlist than WCBS. It's simply not true.
Let's look at WCBS on an ordinary Friday (yesterday) at 10am:
* = Song KRTH doesn't play
Beatles - 8 Days a Week
*Jim Croce - Bad Bad Leroy Brown
*Hall and Oates - Kiss on My List
4 Tops - Same Old Song
*Eagles - Already Gone
*Wayne Fontana - Game of Love
*Gene Chandler - Duke of Earl
Neil Young - Heart of Gold
*Bruce Hornsby - The Way It Is
Sam and Dave - Hold On
*Jackson Browne - Somebody's Baby
*Gladys Night - I've Got To Use My Imagination
Beach Boys - Sloop John B
Marth and the Vandellas - Heatwave
*Doobies - Long Train Running
George Benson - On Broadway
*Van Halen - Jump
*Temptations - Girl (Why You Wanna Make Me Blue)
Carole King - It's Too Late
*Silhouettes - Get A Job
CCR - Lookin' Out My Back Door
Sister Sledge - We Are Family
Beatles - Yesterday
*Bob Seger - Hollywood Nights
Supremes - Back In My Arms
Blackbyrds - Walking In Rhythm
*Heart - Magic Man
WCBS plays everything KRTH plays, PLUS...
- 50's songs (Hound Dog, Duke of Earl, Get A Job)
- deeper tracks from 60s and 70s
- more classic rock tracks
- more 80s tracks
Add in DJs that aren't reading off cards, specialty shows, themed weekends, and it's a much better station.
Let's look at WCBS on an ordinary Friday (yesterday) at 10am:
* = Song KRTH doesn't play
Beatles - 8 Days a Week
*Jim Croce - Bad Bad Leroy Brown
*Hall and Oates - Kiss on My List
4 Tops - Same Old Song
*Eagles - Already Gone
*Wayne Fontana - Game of Love
*Gene Chandler - Duke of Earl
Neil Young - Heart of Gold
*Bruce Hornsby - The Way It Is
Sam and Dave - Hold On
*Jackson Browne - Somebody's Baby
*Gladys Night - I've Got To Use My Imagination
Beach Boys - Sloop John B
Marth and the Vandellas - Heatwave
*Doobies - Long Train Running
George Benson - On Broadway
*Van Halen - Jump
*Temptations - Girl (Why You Wanna Make Me Blue)
Carole King - It's Too Late
*Silhouettes - Get A Job
CCR - Lookin' Out My Back Door
Sister Sledge - We Are Family
Beatles - Yesterday
*Bob Seger - Hollywood Nights
Supremes - Back In My Arms
Blackbyrds - Walking In Rhythm
*Heart - Magic Man
WCBS plays everything KRTH plays, PLUS...
- 50's songs (Hound Dog, Duke of Earl, Get A Job)
- deeper tracks from 60s and 70s
- more classic rock tracks
- more 80s tracks
Add in DJs that aren't reading off cards, specialty shows, themed weekends, and it's a much better station.
scooty430 said:
Oh, gawd. BackintheUSSR and I already told you that a MediaBase monitor, stripped of specialty show songs, gives the lead to KRTH.
OK all.....Technically speaking, KRTH may have more songs, but WCBS rules by far in their selection of songs, hits or not, eras covered, specialty shows / weekends / countdowns..etc.. and less repetition AND presentation of it. Simply said!! KRTH has great music, WCBS is better!!
Why don't you check out the list of "Songs Played" on WCBS and compare them to KRTH's side by side??
Scooty is right about overall selection and variety.
If KRTH had a playlist like CBS, people would love it..nothing's been proven yet, til they try it. Changes are always good, boredom is not.
Why don't you check out the list of "Songs Played" on WCBS and compare them to KRTH's side by side??
Scooty is right about overall selection and variety.
If KRTH had a playlist like CBS, people would love it..nothing's been proven yet, til they try it. Changes are always good, boredom is not.
oldies76 said:
Most of the songs CBS plays that KRTH does not play (MediaBase has a comparison table feature, too) are very, very likely to be ones that would not test well in LA due to the history and demographics and mobility of the market compared to NY.
What you are really asking for is to replace a music mix designed and researched for New York to be put in LA, where it would not work well. You two may have East Coast tastes, but that can not be said for most of the residents of LA.
Look at it this way... in 25-54 (the sales demos) against 25-54 "other" (other means non-Hispanic white people) KRTH and KCBS both have shares in the 5's. That means that, against the core for "white" oldies, both do about the same... so there is absolutely no reason for KRTH to change blend of oldies.
The issue really is that there is a much smaller non Hispanic white core in LA, and the format itself may not be viable in the long term for the market.
DavidEduardo said:
Nope. That sample is mid-day, weekday. Not a specailty show.
WCBS plays a much larger variety. Period. I'm not sure what this MediaBase "monitor" says, but the actual playlists tell a very clear story. If you want to sit down and record the two playlists, 10am to 8pm weekdays, side by side, for a week, be my guest.
But Latinos and "transients" (many of whom come from New York and Boston, by the way) only like about 200 songs, played over and over. That is because.....well, I don't know, really. But studies show that people that have moved from other cities only like small playlists. I guess the move makes them want to hear Brown Eyed Girl a lot - it's like comfort food.
The Latinos like four songs: "Low Rider," "Black Magic Woman," "Suavecito," and "Evil Ways." It helps to play these a couple times a day. And of course the random Selena song from 92 had a huge effect on ratings. Many Latinos listen to hours and hours of KRTH songs from the 60s and 70s to hear that one Selena song. Great programming decision.
Puh-lease! One of the biggest groups that loved Oldies, REAL Oldies, as in Huggy Boy and KRLA, was the Latino community. Yes, as in Elvis and the Everly Brothers. The whole "let's play lots of Santana" idea is a rather sad white man's idea of how to appeal to Latinos.
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BACKnUSSR
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scooty430 said:
Well...it simply is true. And Jhani Kaye and Brian Thomas would both agree with that. In fact though, the actual
number of songs in REGULAR ROTATION are nearly identical. Lets not count specialty shows. Its not anymore fair to count the odd 60's song that Norm N. Nite plays on a Sunday night Radio Greats show than it is to count a KRTH Beatles rarity from "Back To The Beatles".
KRTH is a 60's and 70's station. So don't look for missing 50's and 80's songs because its not what they do.
CBS FM (without a successful JACK format in the market) can get by playing 80's songs and some classic rock like Heart and Van Halen without losing much of its audience to a competitor. Different game for KRTH.
So if you want to compare the stations compare apples & apples. As for "better" jocks, all are very talented.....I might give KRTH the edge in a few key dayparts. And Charlie Tuna is probably the best classic hits fill-in guy in America!!
In the end, its all very subjective....if you think the current incarnation of CBS-FM is more enjoyable than KRTH...go for it. I think you've gotten go back to the Joe McCoy days to make a real horsrace of it though.
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