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THREE DOG NIGHT OM MOYL

I love "Out In The Country" - it's a great song. "Til The World Ends" is also a recommendation.

"Easy To Be Hard," "The Family Of Man," "Black & White," and "Let Me Serenade You" might work. My only hesitation would be that some of the guitar riffs and singing voices might be a bit harsh... but hey, they're no more annoying than Celine Dion's screeching. "Sure As I'm Sittin' Here" would work, but I just don't care for the song.

I don't think the format is quite ready yet for their biggest hit, "Joy To The World," although that day is definitely coming.
 
What about "Shambala" (one of my daughter's favorite songs), "The Show Must go On"?, "One Man Band" and "Family of Man"? Probably those are borderline in relation to most of those mentioned here as "ready for MOYL". One of my favorites "Nobody" probably falls into the same category as "Joy to the World".
 
Prais said:
"One" is from 1969, 41 years ago.
So? "Tutti Frutti" is fourteen years older than that. And it has NO BUSINESS in a standards format.
Prais said:
I'm almost 61 and ENJOY it very much. Boomers parents are dying off, quicly. If they want to stay relevant to "Boomers" - (and not stop people in their LATE 60's from listening). this song WORKS WELL.
I donm't care how old you are. I said it before and I'll say it again. Music of Your Life is turning the format into Timeless Favorites. You're hiring a chimp to program your station. You're throwing perfectly good music in the dumpster.
Prais said:
It is CERTAINLY MUSIC of MY life. They MUST satisfy their target audience - or the will go kaput!

Sorry Chimp, it's not 1980 any more (when that song would have
NOT been a fit.)

Jeff Rollins often plays "Tequila" - and Neil Diamond, "Coming to America"...both are much "hotter" songs. These are "anthems" of that generation. Don't get your shorts in a knot.
Not to me they're not.
Prais said:
t.

Just wait. Coming Soon... more Beatles and the Rolling Stones! It'll be just a few more years. Mark my words.
Not if I have anything to say about it.
 
publisher said:
This discussion is about MOYL, I realize, but to reference what @Prais said regarding the Beatles: Dial Global has also been doing some modest tinkering with its playlist, too. I've heard "Something" and "If I fell" several times over the past few weeks. These songs were either just added or snuck back in after a long absence.

Additionally, DG seems to have peppered in a few more AC hits from the 70s and 80s, including more songs by America ("I Need You"), Bob Welch ("Sentinmental Lady") and Dave Mason ("We Just Disagree").
These have never been gone.
 
Chimp,
YOU may have your preferences. We all do.

The thing is, to SURVIVE FINANCIALLY radio cannot stick to the "old standards." It won't even work in a Major Market, (though it has for over 20 years) let alone in Mayberry, where you are.

YOU and I have NOTHING to say about it. Time marches on. This kind of station - essentially "wimpy oldies" MUST expand and make the music "younger appeal." Those 3 Dog Night Songs mostly work.

In fact, if I was DG, I'd be playing "JOY TO THE WORLD." It was a MONSTER COLOSSAL HIT - and (unless you are 75) is tolerable. I'm adding lots of "softer" Aretha (as we have some black male residents, here - and they respond well to her).

Elvis; We already play Don't be Cruel (from the Ed Sullivan Show -with slower bpm than the original 45), and some of the slower early Elvis hits- and lots of his Gospel hits. We are NOT yet to "Suspicious Minds" but do play "The Wonder of You."

They enjoy "Teach Your Children" by Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young.

There are CERTAINLY NOT enough people (like you and me) who would listen to Jo Stafford and Perez Prado all day. MOST of the people like us are 70+ and radio cannot survive making them happy.

My nursing home tv station (referenced elsewhere) has the luxury of Guy Mitchell, Vera Lynn, Vaughan Monroe and Tony Martin songs. THAT woule NEVER work TODAY on the radio. Most of their fans are deceased.

Buy an i-pod. Radio is dead for our music taste.
 
Prais said:
Chimp,
YOU may have your preferences. We all do.

The thing is, to SURVIVE FINANCIALLY radio cannot stick to the "old standards." It won't even work in a Major Market, (though it has for over 20 years) let alone in Mayberry, where you are.

YOU and I have NOTHING to say about it. Time marches on. This kind of station - essentially "wimpy oldies" MUST expand and make the music "younger appeal." Those 3 Dog Night Songs mostly work.

In fact, if I was DG, I'd be playing "JOY TO THE WORLD." It was a MONSTER COLOSSAL HIT - and (unless you are 75) is tolerable. I'm adding lots of "softer" Aretha (as we have some black male residents, here - and they respond well to her).

Elvis; We already play Don't be Cruel (from the Ed Sullivan Show -with slower bpm than the original 45), and some of the slower early Elvis hits- and lots of his Gospel hits. We are NOT yet to "Suspicious Minds" but do play "The Wonder of You."

They enjoy "Teach Your Children" by Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young.

There are CERTAINLY NOT enough people (like you and me) who would listen to Jo Stafford and Perez Prado all day. MOST of the people like us are 70+ and radio cannot survive making them happy.

My nursing home tv station (referenced elsewhere) has the luxury of Guy Mitchell, Vera Lynn, Vaughan Monroe and Tony Martin songs. THAT woule NEVER work TODAY on the radio. Most of their fans are deceased.

Buy an i-pod. Radio is dead for our music taste.
I don't have the money, and I won't stop.
 
Stop WHAT? Crabbing? Do what you want, but what good will it do, here?

Radio doen't care what you like or I like. They are MASS APPEAL. They target a SALES demographic, and that music won't make it. Believe me, I'm sorrier than you.

Save up and buy and i-pod. That's the only solution and you'll have all the 40's and 50's you can get, and nobody can take it away
 
Prais said:
Stop WHAT? Crabbing? Do what you want, but what good will it do, here?

Radio doen't care what you like or I like. They are MASS APPEAL. They target a SALES demographic, and that music won't make it. Believe me, I'm sorrier than you.

Save up and buy and i-pod. That's the only solution and you'll have all the 40's and 50's you can get, and nobody can take it away
Save what? I'm lucky to be able to afford the Internet. I really shouldn't have wasted money on a computer because there are things about my house that need fixing.

XM was also an option but they charge extra for a home receiver, which is ridiculous. Not for the receiver, mind you, which would be fair. But the subscription.

I'd need a separate one for the car. The thing is they don't have a standards channel that makes me happy. They did, but then Sirius and XM merged and ... wait, it was Sirius that had the good channel and then they called it Siriusly Sinatra. The 40s channel and Escape would be nice. Escape almost added a bunch of vocals but their music director let his bosses know that wouldn't be tolerated. People were cancelling subscriptions, in fact.

For now, I have a community-oriented radio station which is heavy on music but mostly sports at night, when I can't really hear them anyway. The owner plays much worse stuff than "One" on the MORNING show (though his son is even worse when he subsitutes), but the listener requests seem to indicate they prefer the softer material. In the car I have classsic country.

Charlotte has a GREAT standards station which doesn't seem to be making any money and every few months some DJ gets fired (now there are no DJs; okay, they had ONE) or a sports talk show or two get added. And there's no nighttime signal to speak of. But wow, they should replace Siriusly Sinatra with THAT.
 
MOYL has to move forward. They still play a great selection of the classic standards. I know for my show on Monday for example, 6/7/10 I have selections like the Fifth Dimension,(One Less Bell)Rosemary Clooney, Charlie Rich,Sinatra,Harry Connick jr. Neil Diamond,Dean Martin,Ray Charles,Engelbert Humperdinck,Carole King,Dionne Warwick and Johnny Mercer.That's just the first Hour. Outstanding selection of music.
 
amlover said:
MOYL has to move forward. They still play a great selection of the classic standards. I know for my show on Monday for example, 6/7/10 I have selections like the Fifth Dimension,(One Less Bell)Rosemary Clooney, Charlie Rich,Sinatra,Harry Connick jr. Neil Diamond,Dean Martin,Ray Charles,Engelbert Humperdinck,Carole King,Dionne Warwick and Johnny Mercer.That's just the first Hour. Outstanding selection of music.

Yes, radio must evolve with the times. If memory serves me... it's some of what DG & MOYL play today, which were the staple on lite-rock, soft AC stations 1 to 2 decades ago. Barry Manilow would NEVER make it today on those "Magic - lite rock" FM formats. Today, it's all about the last 20 yrs or it doesn't get airplay!

That sample hour sounds great! (although DG has that stuff too) Makes ME wish that I still had a MOYL station in these woods :-[
 
RBW said:
amlover said:
MOYL has to move forward. They still play a great selection of the classic standards. I know for my show on Monday for example, 6/7/10 I have selections like the Fifth Dimension,(One Less Bell)Rosemary Clooney, Charlie Rich,Sinatra,Harry Connick jr. Neil Diamond,Dean Martin,Ray Charles,Engelbert Humperdinck,Carole King,Dionne Warwick and Johnny Mercer.That's just the first Hour. Outstanding selection of music.

Yes, radio must evolve with the times. If memory serves me... it's some of what DG & MOYL play today, which were the staple on lite-rock, soft AC stations 1 to 2 decades ago. Barry Manilow would NEVER make it today on those "Magic - lite rock" FM formats. Today, it's all about the last 20 yrs or it doesn't get airplay!

That sample hour sounds great! (although DG has that stuff too) Makes ME wish that I still had a MOYL station in these woods :-[

Most ACs DO play music that's over 20 years old. But it's acts like U2, Michael Jackson, or Boston "More Than A Feeling"....not Barry Manilow.

Standards is doing a good job picking up the (wonderful IMO) songs and artists AC used to play.
 
Most ACs DO play music that's over 20 years old. But it's acts like U2, Michael Jackson, or Boston "More Than A Feeling"....not Barry Manilow.
Standards is doing a good job picking up the (wonderful IMO) songs and artists AC used to play.

Correct -- Standards ARE doing a fine job at what light AC's USED to do. And as there are exceptions to everything these days... yes, some of those earlier 80's tunes are still thrown in, but as you pointed out, they're not what we loosely call "standards" by today's definition.
 
A couple of surprises that I have heard in the past few days (and they may have been on the DG playlist and I just missed them): Billy Ocean's "Suddenly" and Chris DeBurgh's "Lady in Red." Both fit, IMO, but it reinforces the point we are picking up the slack being left behind by AC stations.
 
publisher said:
A couple of surprises that I have heard in the past few days (and they may have been on the DG playlist and I just missed them): Billy Ocean's "Suddenly" and Chris DeBurgh's "Lady in Red." Both fit, IMO, but it reinforces the point we are picking up the slack being left behind by AC stations.
I don't know how long, but Dial Global has played "Suddenly" for many years.

A standards station I used to listen to in the North Carolina mountains played "Lady in Red" as well as that awful Kenny Rogers/Kim Carnes/James Ingram "What About Me". I was still certain the station could be considered standards because they played a lot of the same stuff other standards stations played. Would you believe this was a 100,000-watt FM? I don't know how many years they lasted. The station was strong enough to be heard a long way off even before the signal upgrade, sometime around 1990. I do remember in 1996 they were playing classic hits (I'm referring to the soft version of classic rock, not redefining oldies), and the area's big oldies station had changed the year before and they were Pure Gold before classic hits. The station never did well because they were some distance away and another station on a nearby frequency probably interfered. So that's why they got away with this format. for as long as they did. Now they're rhythmic.

Here's my experience with MOYL. In 1996 I was just turning from one station to another and I found this great music. It was better than my Stardust station. And I could listen in the car when my father and I went to visit his aunt. It was strange they played "It's Too Late" by Carole King and "Goodbye to Love" by The Carpenters. The station's owners a few years later tried going up against Rush with a network of talk stations. Major flop. This station went country gold.

But closer to where I lived, a man who had been denied the right to air Stardust when he bought a station that went off the air tried satellite soft AC. After MOYL became available (it wasn't an option when the man was told he was too close to another Stardust station, even though the directional antenna cancelled out any duplication; the man hated Transtar/Unistar's sound for some reason) he picked it up and it was great.

One day in 1999 my father said, "Turn that junk off." Seriously? They were playing John Denver. A few months later he commented on how much he liked it. They were playing James Taylor's "Fire and Rain" at the time. I also said he had called the same station junk. By this time WSAI had picked up the format so I was hearing it at night. I remember Air Supply among others who weren't really "standards".

My semi-retired barber and everyone who came in liked the station so much. Eventually, though, the owner decided to try oldies part of the day. Then he went all oldies. There weren't a lot of local commercials. They're doing better now and it's the only oldies station for miles.

On the way to the beach I used to hear easy listening. The station that did it added more vocals and then went soft rock. Well, not SOFT--more like so-called soft rock is today, so their AM station went MOYL. The last two times I heard that station before Jones cancelled MOYL it was so extreme I couldn't believe it. One year Ben E. King was the only one doing a song that wasn't a "standard". And there was one year I heard Elvis when I made a wrong turn. One year Jim Croce was played in the middle of lots of real standards,and he really stood out. It was like a train wreck. Why bother with him? On the way home one year I heard "Wind Beneath My Wings" by Bette Midler. That was distressing, but I read somewhere they played that awful Titanic song. I don't reemmber why I didn't listen on the way home both those years, but I think this station had a lot of talk, not to mention a lot of sensitivity to power lines.

For the last two years that station has been Dial Global. So they must have followed Jones, and Jones was taken over.
 
Another add to the MOYL playlist. Brown Eyed Girl by Van Morrison was heard this morning. They probably have a Pop/AC category in light rotation with the true standards. Sinatra followed Van.
 
bossjock 56 said:
Another add to the MOYL playlist. Brown Eyed Girl by Van Morrison was heard this morning. They probably have a Pop/AC category in light rotation with the true standards. Sinatra followed Van.
He'd better have.

I thought of another experience I had with this format. It was in 2001 or 2002 because I went to the beach with two of my aunts. "You're So Vain" by Carly Simon (supposedly featuring Mick Jagger), which was pretty shocking for such a conservative format.

And speaking of Jagger, I heard "You Can't Always Get What You Want" over the weekend while turning from one station to another. Back in 1995, it was the first song I heard on an easy listening station that had switched to classic hits (classic rock), so naturally I would despise it (easy listening had just moved to a new frequency). Not too bad, I guess, especially given the choir, but still nothing I would want to hear in a standards format. If I was stuck listening to oldies I could live with it. And I may be one of these days now that I've lost my country station.
 
Brown Eyed Girl is kinda borderline to me.

As far as Carly Simon goes, I wouldn't play You're So Vain. THhs format really needs to be careful when it comes to the guitar..

I'd play a bunch of her other stuff though...Nobody Does It Better, That's The Way I've Always Heard It Should Be, You BelongTo Me...
 
Seltzer said:
Brown Eyed Girl is kinda borderline to me.

As far as Carly Simon goes, I wouldn't play You're So Vain. THhs format really needs to be careful when it comes to the guitar..

I'd play a bunch of her other stuff though...Nobody Does It Better, That's The Way I've Always Heard It Should Be, You BelongTo Me...
I would agrree about Carly Simon. I found "You Belong to Me' a major shock on an easy listening station back in the early 90s but I suppose it's fine here.

As for the guitar, Dial Global needs to dump Bread's "Guitar Man". Also the ending of "Goodbye to Love" by The Carpenters.

I heard "Brown Eyed Girl" somewhere over the weekend and I can do without it.
 
amlover said:
MOYL has to move forward. They still play a great selection of the classic standards. I know for my show on Monday for example, 6/7/10 I have selections like the Fifth Dimension,(One Less Bell)Rosemary Clooney, Charlie Rich,Sinatra,Harry Connick jr. Neil Diamond,Dean Martin,Ray Charles,Engelbert Humperdinck,Carole King,Dionne Warwick and Johnny Mercer.That's just the first Hour. Outstanding selection of music.
Sounds good (well, except Carole King unless it's "It's Too Late"), but this all started with Three Dog Night and they just have no business there.
 
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