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WHY IS THERE ONLY ONE RAP/HIP-HOP STATION IN COLUMBUS???????????????

Hope you're not holding your breath, Jake. You gfuys that want commercial radio to be your personal iPod are always going to be dissapointed. The vast majority of listeners aren't rabid music fans, music geeks or collectors or people, like many ofg you here, that want to buy a CD, listen to it once and throw it out the car window. Even if radio assembled a panel consisting of nothing but request line callers, Radio Info posters, and old record collectors, you all couldn't agree among yourselves on what obscure and unknown music to play. You may not like the fact that commercial radio stations are about attracting the largest possible audience in the right demographic groups,but that is reality. Very, very few people are rabid music fans or collectors. Mostly music is something in the background at work. Radio (commercial)is simply not going to program to hyper-niche tastes, much as you may insist that if only they stopped playing any hits at all and played nothing but unknowns and ultra-super-geek music that the crowds would come running. Sort of like saying that the multiplex at the mall would get more business running obscure art films and dropping Hollywood hits. Non commercial is where you want to be, and then you can play your favorites and hope you can find a handful of people to come along.
 
You know gr8oldies?

There might be some people on here who want to be their own PD.

There might even be some people in here who want a radio station to sound just like their iPod.

But you know what I think gr8oldies?

I think the vast majority of us here just want great radio stations. ;)

It's so simple, find the best of best formats in on all of the best markets. Study their success and bring those formats to Columbus.

It's just that easy.
 
Dawg said; It's so simple, find the best of best formats in on all of the best markets. Study their success and bring those formats to Columbus.

It's just that easy.

Sir - or (with all due respect) pooch if you prefer....If it was "that easy" it would NOW be on the air."
 
I just don't understand why stations all around the country can have the best sounding stations in the country, but yet we get stuck with cookie cutter crap. Sometimes, smaller market stations can sound the best! There are a handful of stations in Columbus that I would love to see flip.
 
gr8oldies said:
Hope you're not holding your breath, Jake. You gfuys that want commercial radio to be your personal iPod are always going to be dissapointed. The vast majority of listeners aren't rabid music fans, music geeks or collectors or people, like many ofg you here, that want to buy a CD, listen to it once and throw it out the car window. Even if radio assembled a panel consisting of nothing but request line callers, Radio Info posters, and old record collectors, you all couldn't agree among yourselves on what obscure and unknown music to play. You may not like the fact that commercial radio stations are about attracting the largest possible audience in the right demographic groups,but that is reality. Very, very few people are rabid music fans or collectors. Mostly music is something in the background at work. Radio (commercial)is simply not going to program to hyper-niche tastes, much as you may insist that if only they stopped playing any hits at all and played nothing but unknowns and ultra-super-geek music that the crowds would come running. Sort of like saying that the multiplex at the mall would get more business running obscure art films and dropping Hollywood hits. Non commercial is where you want to be, and then you can play your favorites and hope you can find a handful of people to come along.
gr8, I couldn't have said it better myself.
 
Prais said:
Dawg said; It's so simple, find the best of best formats in on all of the best markets. Study their success and bring those formats to Columbus.

It's just that easy.

Sir - or (with all due respect) pooch if you prefer....If it was "that easy" it would NOW be on the air."
Prais, remember that it takes Columbus radio longer than most markets to realize and take hold of trends in this business. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell you that six country stations in one market is a bad idea, but tell that to the morons that think that six country signals are a good idea.
 
Re: Columbus/Re: WHY IS THERE ONLY ONE RAP/HIP-HOP STATION IN COLUMBUS???????????????

Yes, Kevin HAS done a ton of research before...and not only in Columbus! He's a respected radio veteran, and doesn't come on a radio message board running his mouth about a subject he knows nothing about. It sounds like you are a very angry, bitter person who doesn't like to receive criticism on your knowledge-free posts. Like I said, if you don't like Power 107, flip on your iPod and pick your own music, or there's always both internet radio, and/or XM/Sirius. Otherwise, it is in poor taste to come on this board and insult a person with thirty-plus years of radio experience and tear him apart like he's a 13 year old that doesn't know what he's talking about.

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just like you told me where's your evidence proof or reasearch at? If this is true
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Proof? He is the former PD of Star 107.9 and tested a TON of Rhythmic 80s and 90s stuff during his tenure there and it tested poorly every time, i.e. the reason they didn't include it in their normal rotation. Personally, I like some of the stuff you mentioned, like Hammer and DJ Jazzy Jeff/Fresh Prince and Sir Mix A Lot, but the masses don't want it in their every day music mix, i.e. it's OK for the iPod but not on the dial. BTW, the Sir Mix A Lot song is not called "Big Butts" but "Baby Got Back" ::). Star did play these ONLY during their show entitled "The Edge of 80s" on Friday nights where they played late 80s and 90s music.
 
Prais said:
Dawg said; It's so simple, find the best of best formats in on all of the best markets. Study their success and bring those formats to Columbus.

It's just that easy.

Sir - or pooch if you prefer....If it was "that easy" it would NOW be on the air."


All ego's aside Mr. Program Directors, has anyone here really tried?

Now I don't know about you but I believe it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the logic in what I propose.

And Prais, I'm sorry but your lousy attempt at sarcasm (with complete disrespect BTW) by calling me "pooch" only justifies your ignorance.
 
For once, can we please not try to send this post to TAKE IT OUTSIDE - we're hear to discuss the positives/negatives of Power 1075 and if anything different will come to Columbus.
 
If we really did study a successful station elsewhere and bring it to Columbus, wouldn't that be "cookie cutter radio" that everyone complains about?
 
Yeah it would be cookie cutter, but it would be up on new music. With the exception of Seattle, and Boston, every urban or rhythmic station in every other market sounds better than 107.5. Literally, every other market. You can tell me any city that has a rhythmic or urban and I'm telling you it's programmed better than 107.5. The problem is that the rhythmic/urban songs that get played heavily on other top 40 stations don't get heavy play on WNCI. Power 107.5 saw an opportunity. That's why you hear Lady Gaga on Power 107.5, and yes Lady Gaga does get plenty of play on WNCI, but it's not like Power 107.5 is gonna say "Welp WNCI's playing Lady Gaga a lot so we don't have to." I'm just saying that WNCI leans much much less rhythmic compared to most Top 40 stations and 107.5 moved in. Honestly, anyone with business sense would do the same thing, but this city could easily support a true urban, or even a true hip hop leaning rhythmic.(aka a rhythmic that doesn't play "Party in the USA" by Miley Cyrus.) You can have all the radio experience you want, but when it comes to urban radio you're like a 13 year old talking about adult contemporary.
 
Dawg4life,

HA! A guy with a name like "dawg is complaining about respect! OK...

I'm glad I'm over 60. You guys can have the world for all I care!!
 
One thing that drives me nuts are those supremely illogical and repeatedly dis-proven assertions along the lines of, "if it was possible to do any better, someone would already be doing it" (or variations thereof).
 
Prais said:
Dawg4life,

HA! A guy with a name like "dawg is complaining about respect! OK...

I'm glad I'm over 60. You guys can have the world for all I care!!

I'm a Browns fan hence the dawg reference. I'm 35 and I try to show respect for my elders so I'll refrain from making anymore comments on your behalf.
 
gr8oldies said:
If we really did study a successful station elsewhere and bring it to Columbus, wouldn't that be "cookie cutter radio" that everyone complains about?

Yes and no. I'd take a few good quality cookie cutter stations to replace the half dozen Country stations that Columbus currently has. I'm not a fan copying every detail down to the logo and jingles like Radio 106.7 or every Kiss FM in the country but if it means getting superior quality radio over the crap that's infesting our airwaves right now then bring me a big glass of milk to go along with those cookies.
 
gr8oldies said:
If we really did study a successful station elsewhere and bring it to Columbus, wouldn't that be "cookie cutter radio" that everyone complains about?

Yes and no. I'd take a few good quality cookie cutter stations to replace the half dozen Country stations that Columbus currently has. I'm not a fan of copying every detail down to the logo and jingles like Radio 106.7 or every Kiss FM in the country but if it means getting superior quality radio over the crap that's infesting our airwaves right now then bring me a big glass of milk to go along with those cookies.
 
Dawg knows his stuff! Feel free to contact me to further discuss....

To others,

Look at the Rhythmic chart on R&R or Mediabase. Then listen to WCKX. You can see just how "slow" they are and also what they call "new music" where it appears on the charts... usually.... top 20 songs are "new" but they play them like it's a B or A.... it's still getting the proper spins, but to tell Columbus that it's new music is ridiculous. I like the other post about POWER/WNCI - New Format? It had me thinking that something was up, but the post is good.
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
One thing that drives me nuts are those supremely illogical and repeatedly dis-proven assertions along the lines of, "if it was possible to do any better, someone would already be doing it" (or variations thereof).

Nu Roo I agree with you 100%.

Unfortunately, I see no light at the end of the tunnel as long as current ownership and management stays status quo in the Columbus market.
 
dawg4life said:
gr8oldies said:
If we really did study a successful station elsewhere and bring it to Columbus, wouldn't that be "cookie cutter radio" that everyone complains about?

Yes and no. I'd take a few good quality cookie cutter stations to replace the half dozen Country stations that Columbus currently has. I'm not a fan of copying every detail down to the logo and jingles like Radio 106.7 or every Kiss FM in the country but if it means getting superior quality radio over the crap that's infesting our airwaves right now then bring me a big glass of milk to go along with those cookies.

Save some of them cookies for me, dawg! I can't face any more of that stale cornbread from the Tee Jaye's COUNTRY place of radio markets.
 
dawg4life said:
Nu_Roo_2 said:
One thing that drives me nuts are those supremely illogical and repeatedly dis-proven assertions along the lines of,  "if it was possible to do any better, someone would already be doing it" (or variations thereof).

Nu Roo I agree with you 100%.

Unfortunately, I see no light at the end of the tunnel as long as current ownership and management stays status quo in the Columbus market.

For so long, I have kept trying to convince myself that your last assertion couldn't be completely true, but it's gotten to the point where I have to face reality.  I agree with you.
 
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