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ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live

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Who exactly is going to wake up? If someone is not “awake” they’re comatose. You have a hell of a lot of people awake on both sides. One group is cheering on the fascism they once decried because they’re getting to stick it to the other side. That other side has been warning about this all along. And the skewed electoral system favors group 1.
I'll bet my next paycheck that you'd be quite wrong on that prediction. And no, I am not one of those hopium addicts.
 
Another dead end for the Dems.

People feel powerless. That's what's leading to violence. They see their rights are being taken away. They see no real solution to the situation. Ironically it was all predicted in the federalist papers. They said then that the second amendment is the antidote to tyranny. Where are people coming up with this stuff? Here:


The media is really the last outlet people have. That's why it's so important to keep the media free. People need to feel they're being heard.
 
Then they do this at their absolute own peril. Simple as that. Something tangently different is afoot here.
Is it because it’s a subject central to this forum that we think this is different? It’s really not. We’ve heard for how long “this time he’s crossed a line” or something to that effect. We’re seeing the predictable immediate aftermath. Every single time it goes back down to a simmer when the next thing comes up. Maybe it takes a week or two, maybe longer.

We’re talking about an administration and willing legislative and judicial branch that happily cut funding for children’s cancer research, destroyed PBS and NPR, are destroying the education department, engaging in ghastly deportation activities, and the list goes on. I’m sorry, but Kimmel’s show is not going to suddenly break his ironclad grip. Not a single GOP legislator is going to lose their job in 2026 over this. And if we’re being honest, retaining their jobs is all that motivates them.
 
Is it because it’s a subject central to this forum that we think this is different? It’s really not. We’ve heard for how long “this time he’s crossed a line” or something to that effect. We’re seeing the predictable immediate aftermath. Every single time it goes back down to a simmer when the next thing comes up. Maybe it takes a week or two, maybe longer.
I strongly and vehemently disagree with you. The killing of late night television is going to reverberate both here and in the public sphere for years to come.

The difference is Colbert got a chance to say goodbye for 10 months and Paramount Global has plausible deniability.
We’re talking about an administration and willing legislative and judicial branch that happily cut funding for children’s cancer research, destroyed PBS and NPR, are destroying the education department, engaging in ghastly deportation activities, and the list goes on. I’m sorry, but Kimmel’s show is not going to suddenly break his ironclad grip. Not a single GOP legislator is going to lose their job in 2026 over this. And if we’re being honest, retaining their jobs is all that motivates them.
If that's the attitude on here, then Lance should just close down the boards, and we all stop trying because it's all preordained. In fact I'd advocate this thread be locked right now because there's no point in continuing.
 
I strongly and vehemently disagree with you. The killing of late night television is going to reverberate both here and in the public sphere for years to come.

The difference is Colbert got a chance to say goodbye for 10 months and Paramount Global has plausible deniability.

If that's the attitude on here, then Lance should just close down the boards, and we all stop trying because it's all preordained. In fact I'd advocate this thread be locked right now because there's no point in continuing.
No, because there's enough dumb stuff happening on a weekly basis that we have to keep track of, it'll eventually become a footnote. Meanwhile, the Charlie Kirk thing will reverberate in the public sphere for years to come as they have already made him a martyr for free speech.
 

Here are more details on KABC-TV targeted in the FCC complaint in response to the Jimmy Kimmel issue. Yes it’s because KABC-TV is in the same area as Disney’s main office and where Jimmy Kimmel is filmed.

A law firm with conservative ties has filed a formal complaint to the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) against a Los Angeles television station that is directly tied to the Walt Disney Company and ABC’s decision to suspend its late night talk show “Jimmy Kimmel Live.”

On Thursday, the Center for American Rights (CAR) filed the complaint against KABC-TV (Channel 7), alleging talk show host Jimmy Kimmel acted with “callous disregard of the facts” in his opening monologue on Monday, during which he wrongfully implied that a man suspected of shooting political activist Charlie Kirk was politically aligned with supporters of President Donald Trump.
 
No, because there's enough dumb stuff happening on a weekly basis that we have to keep track of, it'll eventually become a footnote. Meanwhile, the Charlie Kirk thing will reverberate in the public sphere for years to come as they have already made him a martyr for free speech.
The shooter is a fool who shot down his own cause. He didn't help any of us either.
 
There were newspapers that used something like "Roxton Wide Awake" for their name. I always wondered the context back say 1880s through 1920s.
 
If that's the attitude on here, then Lance should just close down the boards, and we all stop trying because it's all preordained. In fact I'd advocate this thread be locked right now because there's no point in continuing.
I'm serious here. It's bad enough when threads keep getting derailed and locked because of irreconcilable political differences. It's another when there's a drumbeat of "nothing will change, we're permanently screwed" nihilism. This is how we end up with more Luigi Mangiones.

If what I say here gets me banned, then so be it, but defeatism gets me more angry than any opposing viewpoint.

/soapbox
 
I'm serious here. It's bad enough when threads keep getting derailed and locked and users get banned because of irreconcilable political differences. It's another when there's a drumbeat of "nothing will change, we're permanently screwed" nihilism. This is how we end up with more Luigi Mangiones.

/soapbox
We don't own the media or the government...we ultimately can't do anything about it.
 
If that's the attitude on here, then Lance should just close down the boards, and we all stop trying because it's all preordained. In fact I'd advocate this thread be locked right now because there's no point in continuing.
People are free to try. Maybe someday something will actually change. But the days when Nixon’s own party found what he did crossed a line and were willing to speak up are gone. Star Wars and its scrappy rebellion taking down the Sith is a lovely fantasy.

It’s wonderful that we have governors like Pritzker willing to stand up, and states forming their own coalitions to bypass the compromised CDC and HHS. Truly.

It’s not that millions of people don’t appreciate the gravity. But they have bills to pay and kids to raise and jobs to cling to as the economy goes off a cliff. They’re tired. They’re scared. They do what they can when they can, but the deck is stacked firmly against them by the very system they were once told was the envy of the world.

I respect and value Kimmel and Colbert and Stewart et al, but am not blinded by unrealistic fantasy. The system is irretrievably broken. The guardrails did not hold. This is where we are.

I have varied between tears and rage for the world we’re leaving our children and grandchildren. It’s devastating. It’s devastating to know so many people cheer the stripping of rights from women, from the LGBTQIA community, basic human rights and dignity from immigrants who wanted to build a better life. That the endless number of school tragedies are a fine trade-off so we can have weapons of horror in millions of hands. And that’s just off the top of my head.

People don’t want to be exhausted. People want to believe there’s hope. But we put this man back in charge after Ukraine. After January 6. After so many lies and ethical violations that no one could count. Tens of millions chose this, actively and enthusiastically. They still cheer it on. And they have, like it or not, disproportionate representation.

So yeah, I’m sorry, but this story is going to be like to many before. The people who are against the corruption and overreach will speak out. Speak from a place of fear and anger. And in a few days or weeks something new will come along.
 
Im waiting for the long play when we find out the shooter was a MAGA republican. Then what will happen with the media landscape.
 
Remember that Bob Iger went over the Disney board and yanked Kimmel off the air, completely spiraling it out of control. Bob Chapek was tossed for far less than this.

He doesn't have to check with the board to make this kind of move. However, they can question his decision.

Disney stock has dropped a few dollars since the decision. It's bad PR for sure. Not the kind of thing you remove Iger over.

The real challenge is how he fixes things.
 
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