Heres a rough Longley-Rice approximation of the combined stations servicable coverage to the 50 dbu contour. Thats a huge coverage area.
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purpledevil said:
And it's the SAME songs by the SAME artists.
Zeppelin - Stairway, Whole Lotta Love
ZZ Top - Gimme All Your Lovin, Sharp Dressed Man, Lagrange
Skynyrd - Freebird
Eagles - Hotel California, Life In The Fast Lane, that Joe Walsh song
etc. etc....the same stuff we've heard a million times.
I think this will be for the time being as Cox plans to sell KHPT to Univision, and Univision plans to move KQBU (La Que Buena) over to 106-9 once the deal is complete. Univision also owns Top 10 Houston Radio Powerhouse KLTN (Estereo Latino), and they might turn KQBU's current dial position-93.3 into La Kalle.
At this moment, there is no mention of 106.9 anywhere on the The Eagle's website. Yesterday there was a little announcement box with news of the simulcast, but now even that is gone. It's all 107.5. How bizarre.
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Troy, I am going to call you out on that. KHPT is not, and I repeat is not being sold. That is fact. Wherever you got your information from, it is wrong and flat out fabricated. I also am calling myself out too as I shouldn't have posted what I did about KGLK being the one without seeing proof for myself. One person stated that to me in confidentiality, while another person of equal creditability stated that has not been discussed within the hallowed halls of Cox Radio to his knowledge. I suspect that none of us will ever truly know what the real situation is and that it boils down to a cost cutting measure.
With that being said, and I am not one to speak for other people, but I feel this needs to be put on the table. Someone, somewhere out there in internet land decided to take it upon themselves to vandalize Cox's Zone and Eagle vans Sunday night because of this fiasco and left behind some vulgar and tasteless messages to the people working there. My message to you, as delicately as I can put this, is to grow up. You should be arrested. Plain and simple. If nothing else, this shows your maturity level, or the lack therof, and makes you look like the classless, lowlife thug that you truly are. It is a shame that some people are ignorant enough to think that this action would benefit the situation in any way.
With that being said, and I am not one to speak for other people, but I feel this needs to be put on the table. Someone, somewhere out there in internet land decided to take it upon themselves to vandalize Cox's Zone and Eagle vans Sunday night because of this fiasco and left behind some vulgar and tasteless messages to the people working there. My message to you, as delicately as I can put this, is to grow up. You should be arrested. Plain and simple. If nothing else, this shows your maturity level, or the lack therof, and makes you look like the classless, lowlife thug that you truly are. It is a shame that some people are ignorant enough to think that this action would benefit the situation in any way.
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Ryan Williams said:
Add the RDS for 106.9 gone as well. Yesterday, it read "106 9 and 107 5 Houston's Eagle". Today, 106.9 has the same RDS as 107.5. Song title, artist, and followed by "The New 107-5 The Eagle". I figured this would happen eventually as 106.9 was not showing song information yesterday. I assume there will be a change to 106.9's RDS where it will read "106-9 The Eagle" as soon as someone notices that it was overlooked.
Also, I was sending out messages on The Eagle's Facebook page about The Zone's FB Page being taken out, and apparently, all of the rants about The Zone have already been taken out, because it wants to be known as Eagle 107 Rocks Houston @ 107-5 & 106-9. After all, It's just another day in the office. It's all about business.
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purpledevil said:
RDS has changed again. Now reading "Houston's Eagle" on both stations, without mention of either frequency.
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Fieldtech1 said:
Yeah, but look at how much of it is rural or water. Some 40% or so of 107.5 is water, and at least as much of 106.9 is rural (look how much of their signal alone is that, and they both seem to overlap a lot in the city. How many more people are going to tune in to either frequency now - people who didn't listen before because the signal was too poor? Looks to me like it just improves the signal for some northern suburban/rural areas. Maybe those areas have people more likely to tune in now - but are they going to get hundreds of thousands of BRAND NEW listeners out of this? I assume that 107.5's numbers will go down from people switching to 106.9 - and I assume no one who listened to The Zone will start listening to the 106.9 Eagle.
That's why this simulcast just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe for a temporary basis - maybe to hook some people in and then flip 107.5, but not on a long term basis.
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MikeRichardson said:
It's stupid
from FMQB
Following the end of Cox Modern Rocker KHPT/Houston, night talent Katy Dempsey and weekender Michele Fisher segue for part-time duties at sister Country KKBQ, while former midday host Heather Converse is on the loose. PD Kevin Vargas is still on board until June 30, and would prefer to remain with Cox Radio and is exploring any and all internal opportunities.
and Kevin Vargas got hand-picked from Cox Orlando to run the Zone for less than 6 months. how do you think he feels?
what about Bobby Duncan?
I think getting rid of the Zone was bad. I didn't listen enough. At least they could have gone more after the Buzz before Cox pulled the plug.
Following the end of Cox Modern Rocker KHPT/Houston, night talent Katy Dempsey and weekender Michele Fisher segue for part-time duties at sister Country KKBQ, while former midday host Heather Converse is on the loose. PD Kevin Vargas is still on board until June 30, and would prefer to remain with Cox Radio and is exploring any and all internal opportunities.
and Kevin Vargas got hand-picked from Cox Orlando to run the Zone for less than 6 months. how do you think he feels?
what about Bobby Duncan?
I think getting rid of the Zone was bad. I didn't listen enough. At least they could have gone more after the Buzz before Cox pulled the plug.
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Jay C said:
I wish they'd have launched with Vargas on board - I guess he's the one that made it sound great in the end, and a launch directly into the post-March or so Zone might have made a bigger splash.
I have most of Sunday recorded - I know it was on automation but there were some great sets. I would assume it's copyright violation to upload the files with songs and all though, but I guess I could trade airchecks with someone (looking for KRBE late 90's Roxy stuff mostly, anyone send me a PM if you have that).
I have not posted on this site in years. Consider this an announcement I plan to contribute to discussions again with frequency. I recognize many of the Houston board members. A few of you will encounter my two cents for the first time.
I am later than Axl Rose pouting in his dressing room 20 minutes after he was scheduled to take the stage. My apologies for the tardiness of this thought.
To MikeRichardson: I never got "The Zone." It seemed like a pointless format (pun intended). I have been a loyal Buzz listener since the station's inception and tend to stick with 94.5 more than any other dial spot.
I scoped out the "new 1069" often and heard maybe five artists total not in the Buzz's rock/alternative rotation. Even then, given that I heard Cypress Hill and Gnarls Barkley in the last week, it wouldn't surprise me if Don Jantzen jammed some Billy Idol on the 4 o' Clock flashback.
Idol was one of the few artists not shared between the competitors. A few long-time alternative outlets across the country offer classic alternative or 90s-centric stations online. I am not familiar with other FM frequencies that carry a Zone-like format. Feel free to laugh at me if I am incorrect.
I heard heaping helpings of Matchbox 20 and Incubus hits. The Buzz already had that covered. The air talent was not packaged in a distinguishable fashion, and the Zone’s logo seemed stale and unimaginative. Kevin Vargas did a great job with KISS in San Antonio, but he accepted a no-win gig here.
Does the average “alternative” listener want a station that does not pimp new music and relies on an established catalog? I am certain there is an audience for that, but I have no idea if it’s big enough to support a major market frequency.
The Buzz’s presentation works because, as with all other modern rock outlets, the station mixes the 90s and 00s songs the casual listener knows with “new” offerings and deeper tracks. I do not work for Clear Channel. KTBZ isn’t perfect, but it sounds better than any other similar operation in Texas. I like checking out KISS, KDGE, maybe KEGL and KROX in spurts, but KTBZ mixes the broad range of rock material I liked better than those others.
The Zone seemed like a tacky imitation in some respects. A DJ and one of the recorded voiceover bits invited fans to gather at a pub near the “Jane’s Addiction concert.” That concert was Buzzfest. That cheap, borderline bush league promo inspired a few chuckles. Hey, please come to a bar in the Woodlands so we can hear/eavesdrop on a show produced by the city’s real alternative kings.
The lineups tend to suck now more than in the past (last fall notwithstanding), but Buzzfest is an established bi-annual event that has helped build the brand. How was The Zone supposed to compete with that?
It seemed from the start like a stunt doomed to fail. I agree with other posters that killing the concept after less than one year was silly. Trying to take down the known giant was even sillier.
I hate the band 10 Years and may begin to vomit if their vapid, uninspired music clogs the airwaves much longer. “Shoot it Out” was a passable hard rock anthem. I bring up that group as an example of the Buzz’s imperfection.
Rock and alternative listeners are so picky these days. Eventually, you’ll turn on 94.5 and hear something that makes you want bash your radio to pieces and start a conflagration. I have grown to love KTBZ again because I understand the vast, mixed audience it must serve. It does a damn good job of that.
I get the new Coldplay followed by Godsmack or System of a Down and then a Nirvana staple. On occasion, the station blares Bob Marley or House of Pain or something else that was prevalent on the dial at some point. Lots of macho stations do a “Mandatory Metallica” segment. The Buzz is the only one I’ve heard that will play anything from the band’s library (and I do mean anything).
The Zone did not deliver enough contrast for my taste. It often came across as the poorly conceived copycat or the envious sister, and the forays into 80s hits seemed too much like Point retreads. Why do that?
I blast 103.7 on my wimpy car stereo a lot because it offers something unique. The Buzz doesn’t play John Mayer, TV on the Radio or some of the pop-leaning stuff that KHJK does. I’m also cool with hearing the Stones and Stevie Ray every once in a while.
I fear that 103.7 will meet the axe because its signal blows and not enough potential listeners know about it. I told five people about “1037 FM” this week. None of them even knew there was a station at the 103.7 frequency. Most people who rock out to terrestrial radio do not scrutinize message boards enough to learn about new happenings.
Cumulus created a channel at a previously dark location, and I doubt enough people would make the switch or add that to the presets in time for ratings salvation.
That was more like two dollars, Mike, but I figured I should weigh in anyway.
I am later than Axl Rose pouting in his dressing room 20 minutes after he was scheduled to take the stage. My apologies for the tardiness of this thought.
To MikeRichardson: I never got "The Zone." It seemed like a pointless format (pun intended). I have been a loyal Buzz listener since the station's inception and tend to stick with 94.5 more than any other dial spot.
I scoped out the "new 1069" often and heard maybe five artists total not in the Buzz's rock/alternative rotation. Even then, given that I heard Cypress Hill and Gnarls Barkley in the last week, it wouldn't surprise me if Don Jantzen jammed some Billy Idol on the 4 o' Clock flashback.
Idol was one of the few artists not shared between the competitors. A few long-time alternative outlets across the country offer classic alternative or 90s-centric stations online. I am not familiar with other FM frequencies that carry a Zone-like format. Feel free to laugh at me if I am incorrect.
I heard heaping helpings of Matchbox 20 and Incubus hits. The Buzz already had that covered. The air talent was not packaged in a distinguishable fashion, and the Zone’s logo seemed stale and unimaginative. Kevin Vargas did a great job with KISS in San Antonio, but he accepted a no-win gig here.
Does the average “alternative” listener want a station that does not pimp new music and relies on an established catalog? I am certain there is an audience for that, but I have no idea if it’s big enough to support a major market frequency.
The Buzz’s presentation works because, as with all other modern rock outlets, the station mixes the 90s and 00s songs the casual listener knows with “new” offerings and deeper tracks. I do not work for Clear Channel. KTBZ isn’t perfect, but it sounds better than any other similar operation in Texas. I like checking out KISS, KDGE, maybe KEGL and KROX in spurts, but KTBZ mixes the broad range of rock material I liked better than those others.
The Zone seemed like a tacky imitation in some respects. A DJ and one of the recorded voiceover bits invited fans to gather at a pub near the “Jane’s Addiction concert.” That concert was Buzzfest. That cheap, borderline bush league promo inspired a few chuckles. Hey, please come to a bar in the Woodlands so we can hear/eavesdrop on a show produced by the city’s real alternative kings.
The lineups tend to suck now more than in the past (last fall notwithstanding), but Buzzfest is an established bi-annual event that has helped build the brand. How was The Zone supposed to compete with that?
It seemed from the start like a stunt doomed to fail. I agree with other posters that killing the concept after less than one year was silly. Trying to take down the known giant was even sillier.
I hate the band 10 Years and may begin to vomit if their vapid, uninspired music clogs the airwaves much longer. “Shoot it Out” was a passable hard rock anthem. I bring up that group as an example of the Buzz’s imperfection.
Rock and alternative listeners are so picky these days. Eventually, you’ll turn on 94.5 and hear something that makes you want bash your radio to pieces and start a conflagration. I have grown to love KTBZ again because I understand the vast, mixed audience it must serve. It does a damn good job of that.
I get the new Coldplay followed by Godsmack or System of a Down and then a Nirvana staple. On occasion, the station blares Bob Marley or House of Pain or something else that was prevalent on the dial at some point. Lots of macho stations do a “Mandatory Metallica” segment. The Buzz is the only one I’ve heard that will play anything from the band’s library (and I do mean anything).
The Zone did not deliver enough contrast for my taste. It often came across as the poorly conceived copycat or the envious sister, and the forays into 80s hits seemed too much like Point retreads. Why do that?
I blast 103.7 on my wimpy car stereo a lot because it offers something unique. The Buzz doesn’t play John Mayer, TV on the Radio or some of the pop-leaning stuff that KHJK does. I’m also cool with hearing the Stones and Stevie Ray every once in a while.
I fear that 103.7 will meet the axe because its signal blows and not enough potential listeners know about it. I told five people about “1037 FM” this week. None of them even knew there was a station at the 103.7 frequency. Most people who rock out to terrestrial radio do not scrutinize message boards enough to learn about new happenings.
Cumulus created a channel at a previously dark location, and I doubt enough people would make the switch or add that to the presets in time for ratings salvation.
That was more like two dollars, Mike, but I figured I should weigh in anyway.
Robslater said:
I disagree with your lengthy statement. The Zone was like those Gen X stations that are popping up minus the rhythmic and pop tracks. I am so sick and tired of hearing Nickleback and other butt rock songs on The Buzz. The Zone had pulled out some gems from the 90s I haven't heard since DXing 101X from San Antonio. The Buzz is a crock. Since when has Metallica been alternative? Mandatory Metallica does not make sense on The Buzz. That should belong on KLOL, which doesn't exist anymore.
I said it once and I'll said it again, Cox, you guys are dumbasses for pulling the plug on The Zone.
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